what classes have no good choices to go for r9
Dragoon 
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corsair R3 still no filter in future. 
The classes i have right now are:
S3>pelt>cors3>shino
arch>QS3>scout>rogue3
I’m a teambattle player and i don’t see my corsnobi with a matador 1 neither my rogue with a Bullet marker lol.
I left the game few months ago because no R8 was good for my rogue even hacka is trash in opinion (bad synergy with rogue 3). I’m just waiting for the new R9 classes.
Moshi moshi.
when did you last play?
Rog3 hacka is dang good now
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Matador 2, unless you have hoplite.
Pardoner, basically because there is no good SPR-based Class at Rank 8 yet.
Same goes for Chaplain builds.
Oracle is now all over the place with no fitting advancement,either.
I’m not saying that you can’t make ends meet with putting just any R8 Class (Inquisitor,Taoist or Zealot) on top of your build, but it just feels weird as these Classes all have different gameplay variations ( Taoist is magic-based static support& lightning damage [fits best with other static Classes like Dievdirbys, Krivis]; Inquisitor is half-static physical attack-based burster [ fits best with Monk & Paladin due to the strike debuffs and physical attack focus]; Zealot is a highly mobile physical attack/debuff DPS Class [fits best with nothing currently, maybe with Chaplain, given the autoattack focus, but the stat focus is just way different…]) which are completely different to what you focus on as Pardoner/Oracle/Chaplain.
Necromancer, there is no SPR-based summoner to advance yet for Rank 7+, so the only choice is to continue Sorcerer for more damage or Thauma/Chrono/Enchanter for more support.
If we talk about the future, we have Cannoneer and Musketeer, given their weapon requirements, they won’t be able to advance into Mergen/Hackapella/Bullet Marker at Rank 10+. Falconer/Sapper seem to be the only viable options right now.
If you completely ignore Burrow.
To be honest Rogue3 is bad in general because burrow is such a pointless skill, you’re taking R3 literally just for more levels of Sneak Hit. Backstab isn’t a great skill, especially since you’re going to be forced to use a dagger to increase its damage meaning if you go Hakkapalle you need to constantly weapon swap manually which is slow as ■■■■still. The class is just a mess and I really think they should rework it.
The classic Hoplite->Corsair build is still kind of bad because Dragoon isn’t a great class choice but if you don’t go Hoplite now you can go Matador which seems pretty alright. Either a Swords3 + ??? Corsair or a Highlander Corsair should work into Matador.
I don’t think any Wizard or Cleric classes are really a problem because they have so many viable circles to use as filler even after things like Linker C1 have been nerfed. For Archer and Swordsman the issues have always and will always be about their weapon requirements or mount requirements and how bad weapon swapping is.
Hacka sinergies a lot with rogue man, get your â– â– â– â– together
Rogue3 is not good for hacka, rogue2 is on fleek.
Backstab and all dagger skills can be used with swords, so hacka have a very good synergy with rogue right now.
We can’t use clocking mounted 
Did u even read my post:
You’re wrong. Backstab can be used with a 1H sword in offhand. They also made Feint, Lachrymator and Vendetta compatible with mounted classes, so the synergy between Hakka and Rogue is even better now. But I agree with the Burrow part. Considering the fact it’s a 3rd circle skill, it’s pretty much useless. They should give Rogue3 a movement skill like Zealot’s Beady Eyes that places you behind your opponent and temporally increases Backstab damage.
There is nothing for Doppel so i keep Doppel on R8 untill they bring a new circle…
then just dont use cloak. also you can use backstab dismounted.
I wrote that I’m TBL player bro i need clock xd
Let’s stop the debate it doesn’t make sense. It’s just my opinion: hakka doesnt fit with rogue 3 and i don’t want to leave rogue3 to play rogue2 hakka. We need a R9 that fit with rogue3. What’s the point to put 3 ranks for Rogue if nobody plays it? When the game released IMC said “yes come play ToS there are many classes you can combine to make your character” nah bro that was a huge lie just like other MMORPG there is a meta and if you don’t play a meta character you are useless.
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Id say Doppel reached a dead end for the time being
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Doppels can either go SW3-HL2 for a Shinobi r9
or backtrack to lower rank classes
cries in Matador
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Appraiser at R9 for you, it seems.
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Tbl archers have 2 options, you either are a squishy lame guy with cloaking or you can be a man with xbow and shield with cute dope sword in 2nd slot like a sexy hackapell.
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