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What build is everyone planning to run first for early access?

Hunters are really strong if you combo Coursing + Retrieve + Rush Dog at the same time, but Dispeller/PD/Ice Shield just nullify hunters. AI is broken, but if you hit one skill of the combo you easily hit all.

Stone Skin is basically broken right now. It’s the reason you take Priest class.

I mean, it’s for sure broken in PvP, but what about PvE? If you have a good tank what benefits do you even get from Stone Skin?

Well, you can augment tank’s defence further. You can buff your DPS defence. You can basically make everyone in the party iron gods.
So, why the hell not? It’s really good.

No doubt it’s good, I just think there are better options to further improve your DPS then Priest C3/Chaplain. But for max survivalbility Priest C3 is truly a god.

sharing my builds in mind. please give me some advices on them. Thanks a lot :slight_smile:

A dps dragoon aiming for both pvp and pve:

A pve soloing and partying wizard build:

A pure damage mainly for pve archer build:

i plan going with a build like this, just a few changes, like deeds 10/10.

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I wouldn’t 10/10 DOV but preferences…
Taking double dmg on a class not ment for tanking seems like a bit too much for me

Oh, by the way.
Double Pay Earn is ATTACK LIMIT, not HIT LIMIT. Which means, every multihit skill will be considered as one attack, i.e. 1 point would be still enough, as you can easily dispatch enemies with these skills. At least, I remember someone saying so.

@Lenny You. Are. Insane.

u probably will dodge most of physical dmg. and u can use some OP low lvl gear if u dont care about defense, i remember some boots with +50 STR.
and once u get deeds 15/15 its even better =)

@Autentist
Double Play Earn IS hit count thats why its only good for bosses or if u go 10-15.
and why am i insane? o.o

Actually it’s far from double damage, if it just decreases the defense. Your defense will be around 300-400 so you will recieve like 200 damage more with lvl 10 deeds. But I might misunderstand the description.

@Autentist, but bosses are different. If you miscalculate multihit damage and deal 100 damage less then expected it would be really sad. But lvl 2 is probably enough in 99% cases.

@Lenny, I’m pretty sure if you dodge/block you won’t get stack of deeds. Also those boots were most probably test equipment, I’m pretty sure they aren’t present in OBT.

Even if it’s HIT count, you have quite enough burst skills like Zornhau. So you can easily finish monsters with this in 1-2 hits.

Attack is considered as a whole. So, if you use an autoattack, it will be counted as 1 limit, but if you use your multihit skill, it’s counted as one attack too, because of it’s nature. If you finish bosses with skills, you should be set.

You are insane because, as @Derael said you won’t get stack, if you dodge. That’s one. Second, for dodge you must go full Dex for it to be relevant. Thus, you are diminishing your DPS. Third. 15 or even 10 Stacks will never be fully stacked. Fourth. The harmful effect of diminishing you DEF is insane. It’s already bad enough, but you want to go futher? You basically become glass cannon with this. So, for survival you must pick at least CON. But, since you mentioned Dodge, it won’t work that easily. So, on level 15 either you oneshot enemies… or they oneshot you. It’s incredibly risky and really not worth it.

@Derael Hmm, I agree. 2 points would be enough for everything. That means 3 points in Redel in my build… should be alright.

Great build on Dragoon, you also can consider bash lvl 3 for additional knockback. Skill distribution is good overall.

Warlock is also nice, but I personally feel pyro is underpowered. Also not sure about skill distribution, ice wall is great, but don’t know about fire wall.

Cannoneer is overall good but I suggest to prioritize shootdown over cannon blast, it has much more dps even vs ground units. Leave blast at lvl 1 and you will be fine. Full draw ~lvl 3 is good for CC and heavy shot lvl 1 for PvP.

some ppl alredy tested double pay earn and ANY hit count as 1.

u will dodge most physical atacks if u have high dex, but u wont dodge all, and u cant dodge magic. it reduces your pdef not your magic def. so its really strong against anything that uses magic.

and for survival u can use HP pots =) alchemists will be making a lot of good pots

You will chug them like madman then. Also, Alchemists got nerfed, just mentioning.

You still have some very powerful bursts, like Zornhau, to take care of it. So, not really a problem, especially buffed.

So, what’s the point in going DEX for this build then? You still will take a lot of damage from physical mobs and bosses, though. All around, I really don’t recommend it. Oh, and the most important thing. By maxing DOV… you deliberately limit yourself in getting other Doppe’s skills.

Actually you can easily get max cyclone, max DOV, max Zucken and get 2 points in DPE, mordschlag, zornhau and redel. Maxed Zuken will deal almost the same damage per 1 hit as maxed Zornhau on shocked targets.

Also the difference will be insignificant, mobs will deal ~200 more damage to you at higher level while they usually deal around 1000.

So I doubt he will have any problems with losing too much HP.

DPE still inflicts at least 2x damage more upon yourself. Too risky, you can still build an excellent DPS without taking this bet.

Also, should Highlander take Cross Guard, if he takes Pelta on C1? I wonder.

I wonder how exactly DPE works? I though you can just use it just before the enemy dies and kill it with 1 hit, so you will get double damage during a few seconds only. Or debuff remains even after you kill the enemy?
Also I wonder if you can cancel it with right click?

I think it’s the first one. But I still wouldn’t take this risk, better max that Zornhau and Redel for damage.

I mean, instant DPE+kill for double XP+loot from boss definitely worth it. I see no risk in it. And with double patk(full stacks) you will most likely be able to finish it in 1 or 2 hits. And if we go Berserker instead of Highlander it’s even better to max, because 400 bonud damage will also be doubled. Feels pretty awesome for me.