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What are the PROS and CONS of Schwarzer Reiter?

Class and Rank Archer
#1

(First of all I’m a reeeally new player… and this is my first MMORPG)

I’ve been searching about this class but unfortunately it seems that no one is playing it! XD
All the infos seems a lot outdated and I really coundn’t figure it out: what is up to Schwarzer Reiter? What is his main strength? How should I build it?

Is any SR out there to help me? XD

Oh, and I just wanted to say that I have no interests on PvP or GvG so I really don’t care about how OP a class can be (or in this particular case, not be)…

#2

uhm have you tried youtube? there are quite a few SR videos there.

#3

Youtube’s search tool (at least on my country) mainly shows brazilian videos… which mostly talk about how empty the servers are.

So if there was any good content it is probably lost in a ocean of “why TOS sücks” videos… lol

#4

SR is a mobile offensive class, it’s main strength is its damaging evasive maneuver which is caracole, retreat shot you can also increase your stats by pumping your companions hp/def/eva. Its lack of synergy with other classes is one of its cons as a lot of skills from other classes doesn’t work well while being mounted, which I personally think should be reworked.

You can go for mobile AA build which is A2-QS3-SR2 or A1QS3-Rou1-SR2 this build often relies on self-buff like swift-step+running shot and sneak hit, or you can go with a heavy AoE skill spam like A1-Range3-Rou1-SR2 or A1-Rang2-Wugu2-SR2.

#5

Cons.

  1. You’d have to have a secondary weapon gun, which in case would be troublesome if you picked a musketeer class or canooneer class alongside with it, mainly stay with the fewer weapon limitations.
  2. Without a wall or a decent mob aggro retreat shot can be wasted.
  3. It feels lack cluster being termed as a mobile class comparing to cata.
  4. Retreat shot and caracole is the only thing I deem worth for the class

Pros

  1. If you’re qs3 using running shot blends well with the mobility.
  2. Your retreat shot deals significant amount of damage if used correctly
  3. Your mount adds slight amount of stats
  4. You get attribute accuracy for attacking with pistol
  5. Caracole is good for dodging skills
#6

I play A2-QS3-SR1 (and plan to SR2 in rank7)

SR is fun because good mobility and cool costume haha
but this class Circle1 is weak… need advance to Circle2 only

Main weapon : Crossbow + Gun(Manamana) for normal mobs // 2HBow for flying mobs

Main armor : Cafrisun Set that you can use until lv200 & buy sacrament buff all the time when playing

Skill : some of skill can’t use while mount… so you need to know about it. (you will dismount when use kind of skill) the best skill for this class is Retreat Shot… only AOE attack for me

Mount : give you status bonus from your companion 25%MHP // 10%DEF // 8% Evasion … I like this bonus I got 2000HP while riding (companion stamina isn’t 0)

Status : imo maybe STR:DEX 1:1 or 2:1 up to your equipment and try to make your HP about 10K atleast for survival (I hate archer who HP lower than 10K… they died to easy) // some ppl go for full STR but it not my style.

#7

PROs:

-Mobility +4 movement speed = less boring, as this game is tree of walking (quest) and tree of grinding (higher level)

-You can get 20% of your pet’s HP, and 10% (?) of evasion and accuracy while mounted, given your pet has STAMINA. Therefore, more tanky

-Good BIS main weapon = mana-mana

-Has the strongest AOE DPS for archer class = retreat shot 30~sh shots on 10 mobs per second for 10 seconds (but also has it cons)

-Can solo grind on Alameth/Storage (100k~ hp mobs)

CONs:

-You will feel some skill are useless

-Need good set-up (walking towards wall) to land retreat shot for 100% efficiently

-You might be locked on SR3 for R8 since SR2 is kinda lackluster

-Don’t have burst (Cannoneer/Musketeer)

-You need mana-mana for max potential damage (if you still don’t have it yet)

Some of popular SR builds:
A2>R3>SR2
A2>QS3>SR2
A2>R>Wu2>SR2
A2>R/A3>Sc3>SR1 - mainly for farming
A>R>Sa2>Ro>SR2 - if its ok for you to mount/unmount

#8

Pros :

  • You get to mount, which not only looks cool, is quite fun but also contributes extra PDEF, Evasion and HP. Then again, you could make a case for Cataphract as well.
  • Retreat Shot is a really strong skill under the right situations, have fun seeing all those numbers splashed on your screen and wiping out a horde of mobs with this skill.
  • Concentrated Fire is also a great skill. Essentially a souped up Multi Shot, and multi hits are awesome.
  • We’re the only class that utilizes pistols to it’s full potential and pistols/revolvers are awesome, my opinion at least.

Cons :

  • SR2 or no SR, I cringe everytime I see an SR-Cannoneer or SR-Musketeer.
  • Retreat Shot relies on having the right set up, most notably having a wall to run into, spinning around, or stupid gimmicks like holding down auto atk while using it to unleash it’s full potential. Without them, you aren’t going to be nearly as efficient using Retreat Shot.
  • IMHO, Limacon is one of the worst “skill” in the entire game, if I can even call it that, nothing more than a glorified auto attack which drains SP really fast for no good tradeoff. In short, completely useless.
  • Caracole, while not completely useless, also won’t be used by majority of the SR players as it’s not very useful most of the time. Also, horrible damage.
  • Wild Shot, our rank 7 skill is not a useless skill by itself, IF it was an ARCHER skill, NOT an SR skill. It however is complete and utter crap when you consider what you could have gotten if you had opted for a Musketeer/Cannoneer build instead. It’s damage is also stupidly low for how late into the game you unlock it.
  • Doesn’t live up to it’s mobile archer theme very well, 2 of our skills (Wild Shot and Conc Fire) locks you into place while charging it up, doesn’t have a move speed up skill (Bokor has Samedieve and even a scout with cloaking attribute moves faster than you and is able to keep 100% uptime with Cloaking 5) and if you really want to see what true mobility is, look at Cataphracts, oh my how I envy their mobility.
#9

I would just like to add on the points stated above

Going SR locks you on crossbow and gun, losing the very important 200% flying attribute bonus of bows. (Technically you can weapon swap, but most SR skills require pistol)

Note, musk and cannon suffer from this as well.