I don’t think that Plague Doctors should be Clerics, nor Featherfoots should be Wizards.
There, I said it.
Plague Doctors are “cientists”, they’re medics.
They’re scholars, like alchemists, or other wizards.
Featherfoots use like… voodoo, spitirual things, they’re more related to Clerics.
But… Wizards can’t have healing… and they needed another 7th rank class.
if they wanted to they easily could. which they don’t so they haven’t. but i will still express my opinion. if they need to find ranks for that class they have an entire company to do the correct research.
There was actually a thread for this discussion if you wanna search it up and read it.
Imply its easy
Imply it would take the entire company researching to make it happen.
That does not sound easy to me.
However, I’m still waiting for more offhands. We have daggers, pistols, and cannons. Where are the magic offhands? What about utility offhands that aren’t just a shield? Clerics and Mages have nothing to really talk about for off-hands, while it becomes a giant defining trait of Archers, and a big consideration for Swordies.
Doesn’t address the dagger idea, but yeah… we need more off-hands desperately. Current options are boring for half the classes.
There’s a watering can… uh I saw some bubble wrap too a while ago. Best off-hand weapons imo.
Maybe a “relic” off hand? if they had more types they could gear one towards mages like you suggested then build things like daggers more towards physical classes. Which would also remove some of the problems with codys thief plan. But it would still be a lot of work.
Forgot about those and the 5kg weight.
It is completely possible to make a Cleric that is very dark in their playstyle. Bokor is a very dark class (with dark magic), and if you consider Sadhu plus Druid, you even have multiple sources of magic DPS. Clerics have a massive array of damage focus, not just that one. I actually mentioned that in an earlier post in this topic.
In that same post, I brought up the similar part on Mages. Did you know that you can, starting at Rank 3 (the same rank as Bokor for the last paragraph), you can start focusing on full support for a Mage, with access to a buff support specialist in every rank along the way down. As mention, mages have more support options than clerics (Clerics just heal, which does mean a lot, but not enough to keep up).
By 10th Rank, support is just going to be messed up. Priest is the highest rank healing class in the game. We will be having Mages built for FS, and Clerics mostly going DPS… Which actually happens a lot already.
Just read it.
I know that their skill kits place them right were they belong.
And the concept of Wizards and Clerics vary from people to people.
I just threw it out there, don’t want IMC to change that either.
I like that mages aren’t just CC/DPS oriented.
But they just can’t have heal.
I’ve seen Lancers who take Peltasta as an off-shot class, and instead focus on DPS with the rest of their build. Specifically, Lancers, as their build is mostly about spears, but they might have a circle in Peltasta.
I’ve seen Clerics who abandon all support in their build starting R3. Either along the magic DPS paths involving Bokor, Sadhu, Druid, or Plague Doctor… or the physical DPS paths focused on Monks. A lot of Cleric options for DPS, really, and actually more DPS options than support options.
A kiting Archer is one who invests in mobility skills, but a lot of possible builds aren’t focused on such. Some builds for archer are even focused on single target burst. At that point, you don’t even want to try kiting, that would just get you killed.
While I’ve not actually played much with Support Mages (or even FS Mages), I do know that there are a few support builds with circle 1 linker (and many that take c1 linker that have a lot of dps going on). At this point, it just plays out like the other three situations above. You have a class which CAN link, but is focused on something else.
I really think people should try to, instead of just looking for someone who has a circle in something they want, find someone who is built to focus on a specific desired role. You request specifically someone built and designed to tank, to heal, to kite, or to link. If they have such focus in their build, and they claim an intent for such a purpose, then you can find reason to blaim them for not actually doing what they are there for.
everyone underestimates cleric dps
i have a sadhu cleric and i can honestly say that now that i have possesion i outdmg all other classes that i come across. won in a duel agianst (im lvl 128)
a lvl 134 swordman (cant remember build)
a lvl 139 swordman (cant rememebrr build)
a lvl 128 archer/quarrel shooter (my friend who is transferring to SA server ;-; )
a lvl 141 wiz3 ele2 ( i was like wuuut, it was cuz possesion binded him and interrupted his casts, it killed him fast too)
a lvl 127 chaplain (didnt even touch me)
a lvl 128 paladin (i used effigy not possesion)
makes me feel like going sadhu was a good thing after all
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I really think people should try to, instead of just looking for someone who has a circle in something they want, find someone who is built to focus on a specific desired role. You request specifically someone built and designed to tank, to heal, to kite, or to link. If they have such focus in their build, and they claim an intent for such a purpose, then you can find reason to blaim them for not actually doing what they are there for.
[/quote]Then they shouldn’t even bother taking that class to destroy expectations…
I’m a Monk. I want to do DPS. But 70% of the time I’m a sole cleric. The 20% of the rest, there’s another cleric who doesn’t know how to support.
So should I suck at support just because I’m a Monk? I won’t give myself a free pass for ignoring support because it’s part of what I signed up for. I have other better choices like Cleric1/Krivis3 if I don’t want to support, then I won’t judge them as strictly.
It’s like someone advertising himself as a Peltasta/tank when trying to look for a party but not actually tanking or taunting.
There’s another side to it though. It’s when you have half-assed builds with 1 circle in here and there overriding your buffs/debuffs with much lower version and you just facepalm.
Yes, Cleric is amazing at full support, and Wizard has builds that specifically focus on being support that I’ve valued more in combat than a Cleric sometimes. I rightfully expect after expanded content occurs, a higher circle Featherfoot FS Mage would fully replace a Cleric.
Why no Thief ? Maybe cuz it was on top of poor designed jobs in RO. Exactly like Merchant. Add to this it was a pain in the ass to fight with only a dagger and 0 damage active skills (boring as fuk). Archer branch is way better because it can introduce classes that look like Thiefs, thing you cannot do with a Thief branch (remember how to become a Rogue 
?).
I’m comparing to RO because in this case IMC clearly wanted to have another way to make a Rogue class. I didn’t find a single game with a good and entertaining Thief class.
This game should have 80 base classes, make skill base damage more tied to player level than rank level, and let you rank up into whatever you want.
I wanna be a runecasting pirate shinobi necro cleric barbarian sapper. so much for class freedom!
I believe that is called the Auction House, my friend.
pardoner?
/20cleric2>preis3>chap1>pard2
Thief would be the only other base that makes sense. Could mature into stuff like assassin/ninja/swashbuckler/apothecary/knife thrower/acrobat/shadow master/etc.
Alot more classes should be open at rank 2 also. It would diversify builds quite a bit if you could get thaumaturgue or paladin at rank 2, for example.
I don’t have the words to describe how i feel about this list of classes already exist under other names.
Not sure what you’re talking about did a group of 3 swordsmen the other day and the weak link was the flipping mage. The swordsmen were cutting through everything.
What lvl? Swordsman have a good early game but fall off quickly as you get higher.