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Unsure of my next step

Hi everybody!

Currently Archer 3 > Scout 1> Rogue 2 here, going Rogue 3 and unsure of what to pick after that; I was gonna do Hackapell but the skills can only be used with mount so I don’t know if I should pick QS1 for Stone Shot and Caltrops (Can be very very useful in pvp) or pick Mergen (I heard it’s not very good).

Any advice? Thank you!

Definitely don’t pick QS1 this late in ranks.

With Mergen you might have difficulty with focusing on upping weapons since you need to have a good bow for Mergen skills then a good xbow + dagger for backstab. Not sure if Mergen skills can be used while burrowed either. You can capture Arrow Sprinkle though.

With Hacka, you can use Backstab even when mounted as well as the sword you’re equipped with. Feint, Capture and Lachry will still dismount you though but with practice, a good ping and some key remapping you should be able to remount with ease after using these skills. Burrow hates Hackas.

I’ve actually seen quite a few Hackapells do well in PVP (Telsiai) with a circle in Scout. Quite an interesting build really. Their approach is to turn off pet (they use “Mount’er Good” addon for this), use cloak, get near you, turn on pet, debuff (Lachry, Feint, etc.), mount then burst you down with damage combos. Might seem complicated on paper but like with other good combos out there, practice makes perfect.

Thank you!

Very valuable info, I will think about it. For PvP means I think QS1 will be awesome with my build, considering the videos I’ve seen, even being late in rank.

I am really lost about this issue, QS1 or what…

I’m not sure about the Sword part, but I’ve yet to find any dagger that wins Karacha Set with Backstab. Perhaps a high enough Trans level would yield a higher damage, don’t think anyone has spent shards on their daggers/hacka swords yet though.

You might be right about Karacha still doing more damage with Backstab and that perhaps a high-trans sword would deal more damage later on with Backstab.

It’s important to consider though the other pros and cons of using either, and I think as you approach endgame, keeping a Karacha on switch will gradually become insignificant.

We already have 3-slotted swords which (when slotted with red gems) means more pAtk for most of the skills, with hunting grounds and appraisal update possibly introducing 4-slotted variants IIRC. Switching isn’t for everyone either as ping affects how fast you can switch.

But yes, like with a lot of other equipments in the game, Karacha will serve well for awhile. Not worth transcending though. Hopefully there will be an upgraded version of it, perhaps a lv.270 or 315 one that offers the same effects or includes a few more bonuses.

Any info on the Archer C9’s yet?

I think having that in mind would help me pick better my next step…

what do you aim as an archer?
worldboss killer(fletcher3)
best AOE attacker (SR3)
farmer(scout3)
machinegun(QS3)
best AOE support(falconer3)
burst god (musket2)
etc

I think I should go for the last Rogue Circle, after that I am blank

If you’re not in a hurry to reach R8, and really wants to go Rogue C3, then go for it.

You can just then roll and main another alt for the time being while leveling your Rogue on the side.

No love for Rogue, all love for QS </3
And yes, I was only referring to Backstab in mind xD.

@ OT,
Perhaps you can try Hunter for single-target disable, Coursing/Snatching, although I do not think throwing away an R7/8 class is a good idea progress-wise (especially that you need to go through R8 maps if not leech missions only), so it is highly not recommended.

What I always thought as well when presented with these questions. We really don’t have a clear idea of what comes next especially for Circle 1 R8 classes at the moment. Dragoon C1 was sh~t but it got really good at C2 - I’m not confident though that all these new R8 classes can get better at C2.

I honestly think it’s not all about damage. Yeah, I might be losing a high rank circle, but I still give my group some utility both in PvP and PvE and who knows, I have my hopes up that R9 for Archer will be a support class so I will still be fulfilling my role.

From the Archer Circles I have Swift Step and Multi Shot (Currently going high as 80k dmg or more if I do it from behind)

Scout gives me Stealth and Flare Shot that I love, utility FTW.

Rogue gives me Crit buf, Evasion buff, Lachrymator and Backstab, Burrow. That is quite neat to have both in PvE and PvP.

I think I will pick QS1 as my last circle. Stone shot has a lot of synergy with Caltrops and helps me with positioning as well.

I think it can be nice.

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if you try ranger+rogue’s steadyaim+feint+barrage once, you will feel "what was i doing up until now?"
my dmg is 5x12000x2x3

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Yeah, I guess you do want you’re happy with. Stone shot is always nice, especially now that they’ve changed the stone weight to 1 so you can stack as much as you want before going into battle. I can vouch for Pavise’s usefulness as well both in PVP and PVE.

QS1 is a 1-circle utility wonder as long as it synergizes other ranks you’ve taken, it’s just that taking it so late, especially at R8, seems like a waste of opportunity to lessen powercreep later on. If you solely want to do PVP with it, maybe it’s OK - but PVE especially R8 content presents ridiculous challenges that makes a lot of low rank circles in Archer and Swordie class almost useless or limited to debuffing skills.

There’s rumor that there MIGHT be no new classes for R9 and R10, just later circles. New classes might be introduced, some being hidden classes, but they’ll likely be in the lower ranks.

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As I see it I have two options this far: Going Rogue 3 and QS1 giving me utility and synergy in PvP or Going Musket2.

I think first option suits the character more.

We’ll see!

Thanks a lot for your help :innocent:

if it didnt work, make it your daily saalus slave, dont delete char

Is that a bot? :confused:

No, @myself meant that you can still use that to run dailies (e.g. dungeons like Saalus for the shards or rushing 115 or 130 for a chance to get rares). Don’t delete - as long as you still have extra slots, just add more.

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Yeah, I understood.

But I meant a guy that posted, it was deleted tho lol

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