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Tree of Savior's international steam client NEEDS to be buy2play, with an non-pay2win cash shop

There are two great reasons of this.

Firstly, Steam is where everybody goes to buy games, now. It’s obviously the leading platform for digital sales. Ol’ Gaben knew exactly how to market, sell and deliver this type of content. Everyone who uses steam has a laundry list of titles they paid for because it’s so bloody convenient to do so. This steam userbase is ready and willing to pay a fee just for the right to start playing. Add in a cash shop that delivers incredibly useful but technically non-essential items that we’re all going to end up buying at some point or another, such as skill and stat respecs, mounts, pets and cosmetics, and the game will be a financial winner.

The second reason is to keep out much of the extreme racism and offensive spams. I have never in my life seen so offensive behavior in a closed beta. An entry fee will dissuade the majority of them, because the majority of these people do not have access to credit cards. It is not necessary to court this crowd for financial success if the game is launching on Steam. Steam users have credit cards, or buy Steam gift cards with cash. They pay for things. Steam is a sales juggernaut. It should be used in this fashion.

I would not in a million years consider playing ToS when it launches if the community stays as it is. I cannot take two steps into any player hub without being blasted with foul language and racism. The people doing this need to be purged from the game, and a pay wall is the best way to do it. I know pay walls are old fashioned, but they can work for you, too.

PS: This isn’t spam. This is my first thread on the subject. Reporting this thread because you don’t like my ideas is an abuse if the community flagging system, and you’re the one who will be punished for it, not me.

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Disable chat.Play with a friend.

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will you people stop making posts like this the game is going to be free to play if you like it or not I’m tired of this

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You people? Who am I?

You do realize the creator of this game want it to be free to play.

Here’s a nice answer.

No.

report ridleyco for spamming
this was the second thread

in America*.
It’s not as popular as you might think elsewhere.

Seems like a lot of you kids are mad about the idea of having to pay for something. I have a question for you - it’s pretty obvious from the attitudes here that you like your racist, trashy mess of a game and you don’t want to have to pay any money for it -

Seeing as the developer wants to make money, why would he listen to you, over me, no matter how many of you there are? They’re courting the steam userbase, not you, because steam is where all the money is at. We’re the ones with the credit cards and the willingness to pay for things.

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Putting a cost on the game won’t prevent racism or rude remarks. If they did make it B2P, what makes you think this will prevent a cash shop in the first place? I have no clue what dream world you are living in.

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Kinda agree with OP. Im liking the game so far but…shout chat is filled with people spamming nonsense, swearings or racial slurs or the combination of all of them. Couple this with botters spam when the game goes free2play = TOS might lose a decent amount of players.

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Can you read? I was asking for buy2play and a cash shop. One fee to keep the majority of the riff-raff out - of course there’s plenty of jerks with credit cards - but the people who can afford to pay for things are generally less horrible than the permanent no-payers who generally descend on F2P titles, buy nothing from the cash shop, ever, and behave like garbage the entire time.

The important thing is that it will lose paying players, which is what really matters. It doesn’t matter how bloated your non-paying player rate is because they are a net loss, financially.

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No I can’t understand stupid suggestions. Your one time fee doesn’t do anything.

So you’re saying that you don’t personally believe that the no-pay f2p mmo crowd is any worse, in terms of civility and intelligence, than the people who have disposable income to spend on the games they play. Is that what you’re saying to me?

better idea is stay free ( + in game mall )
but also have founder pack for anyone who wanted too
with free special costume (cosmetic) :slight_smile:
other mmo have founder pack arround $50 up to $150
i think beta tester the right time for selling founder pack =D

there will always be assholes in the internet. it’s the OP’s problem he has the emotional stability of a 2year old

im not gonna pay a damn cent for this grindfest shjt, NEVER!

all they need to do is just make megaphone a cash item. ez. katka.

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B2P would prevent lots of bots, thats for sure.

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