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Tree of savior really p2w?

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Making a correction. You actually CAN buy from market then turn it into medals. I had the had equipped so it didnt show up. When i removed it, I was allowed to exchange it for medals

Pardoner shop and scrolling should be scrapped period. Instead they doubled down and added more scrolls for the wizard tree

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Thanks for doing that. These bracelets really does turn things around for non-SPR builds especially in TBL and GvG. :open_mouth:

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They will reach it soon 1 day Looooooooool

on topic. P2W not really at the moment. Since max peta does provide all 14 stats to all (without the additional bonus defenses and maximum 20 stat each for class spec.). as compared.

The bracelets are more sided to SPR orientated classes and only PVP. Else… it’s pretty much meh… The con one is outright useless rip. It will only work for Shielded characters… ( which is still meh)

Now it bend towards more on pay to conveniences and time saved.

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Ah alright. It shouldn’t tho lol.

Honestly i don’t mind those, They limit the build of the chars to reach a good one that can be really useful (Pally and Priest are a must, otherwise you have a useless class in the end), which i really don’t agree, buffs are limited, cheap, and it help the new chars level up a big faster.

The content is already dumb and boring, specially at the start.

Another thing i don’t agree is the Instant Clearing Voucher, i do use it now (after leveling 10 chars doing the same boring content), for alt leveling i think it is fine, at the same time, it helps bot owners level theirs faster also.

If they at least kept the gacha at cosmetic and utility level (costumes, dyes, hats, hair, 7 and 15 days Tokens, Stats and Skill Reset Pots, etc…)i wouldn’t really care, well i already don’t, but these rental gear is one thing that destroy a game.
I already passed by a couple of these (including Maple Story which even cosmetics are rental), i’m almost sure they took Nexon’s bait on this rental crap, i wouldn’t doubt they starting doing that for cosmetics in the future.

@atari Thing is, people get accommodated to the changes too fast, all this in ToS right now, 10-12 years ago would be considered P2W, now most brush it over and accept.

In more 10 years, even buying gear for cash will be normal, paying a rental for a system that allow you to bot (this already exist in many games, specially browser games) and it won’t be considered P2W or unfair.


I just don’t see the point in all this crap, ah i don’t have the time to play so i will pay to catch up? Sound so pathetic, when i was employer, i didn’t had time to play games, but i didn’t had to pay my way up because of that.

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TBL is P2W long ago when equipment standardization gone
now with the new exchange shop bracelet, premium pet and Elixir, PVE is P2W
what i would define a P2W is like you said, you can not obtain the same item without paying real money
using silver to buy costume in MP and exchange for medal is not the same, as it require someone to buy the costume in the first place
on the other hand, I do not conclude exp tome stone P2W in PVE, but this gacha does turn traditional TOS PVE in RNG 2 Win into more P2W

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Im sorry to tell you this, but +5 or +10 to all stats won’t save you for too long on TBL.

As any game, paying for the game only increases the speed you gear up. EVERYTHING those “whales” get can be bought or made with enough silver and patience.

  • Want that awesome lvl 8 gem? Start to do your uphill daily.

  • Want to have the best set in the game? Prepare to run ET.

  • Want that stage 10 transcend? Run Saalus daily for the shards, farm the silver to reroll the cubes and if you happen to have more silver, buy them from market.

  • Want that awesome OP stats headgear? Look for trades, farm expensive but on demand items to trade for it so your offer won’t be denied that easily.

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or buy from RMT…

:sadlife:

That’s out of IMC fault plus the new ways to invest money ingame should allow those RMTers more legal options to think about.

^ finally someone with a logical input. Clap3x

Hue to you sire!

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If you don’t want P2W.

You need to wipe function to sell cash shop item in market or even trade between player. cause it’s the main route of everything to got money in game thought real money.

What bothers me more is putting a level 8 gem without roasting it first on a 315 orange recipe😑

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I can’t agree with this. None of the p2w items give enough advantage to either make you do ■■■■ damage to them in pvp so as to not kill them in more than 1 second longer than it would take you if they didn’t have them; or will give them enough damage to make their dps so crazy you can’t compete in WBs.

Blessed shards are not in gacha and nobody knows if they will be there. Also, having them become tradable is a blessing. I didn’t transcend a single weapon so far so I have a ton of shards to sell and make money off

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