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are u saying ur fedi tbl has same amount of tbl player as sea telsai/varena?

we never claim our post/arguement is the real data, but its understandable and very-highly-most-likely to happen

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You seem to confuse assumptions vs claims.

Sorry if it seems like @haukinyau1 and I are tagteaming here. Just happens we’re on the same server and share the same experience.

Good discussion indeed.

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oh man, I just can’t keep quiet when people bring silly arguments :slight_smile:

I’m not saying that they have the same amount of tbl players. I’m merely pointing out that your argument is pulled out of thin air… You keep saying that TBL only has clerics in the top ranks, I’ve proven you otherwise with our EU ladder.

It’s all about the ratio…

Keep on making assumptions, from what I’ve seen on the forums you’re quite good at it :wink:

Edit: at least for our EU server it’s more diverse. Too bad it’s not that way for you guys. more diversity is always a good thing.

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Interested to know what this ratio is. I hear assumptions doesn’t hold any merit here.

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ahhhh, exactly

so your dead pop fedi has higher ratio for class diversity while we high pop cant even get top100 if we arent build for tbl

coz fedi has less tbl/pvp enthusiast
diversity only works if there is less threat/competition

bonus for u,
i can simply throw rank100 to rank200 SEA player to your fedi tbl and still dominate all 10 ranking of yours

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By ratio I meant that our ranks don’t entirely comprise of clerics at all, and even if you have a bigger population, that still shouldn’t even matter. As long as we have several pages of TBL players and our top ranks show diversity, it tells me that in EU fedimian TBL is different from your perspective.

Wow, aren’t you going out of your way with silly assumptions again. What makes you think that your rank 100-200 is better then our rank 10? Have you battled them before?

This is actually quite funny, you talk more out of your ass then you usually do :slight_smile:

Flash news: it does.

With a cleric, and a team with at least one cleric, the chance of winning is always higher than there are none.

In a high pop server with lots of clerics joining TBL, it means lesser chance for non-clerics to catch up in rankings as they’re not always guaranteed to be in a team with at least one cleric.

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high 5 bro

ontherox need to try out our tbl and see for himself

maybe my full dex sw3cata3templar can even score top10 tbl in fedimian… dayum i deleted my char

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This was Klaipeda at the end of last week

in the end it was 5 inquis at top 5
8 clerics in top 10 (one cannon2 and a sage representing the other classes)

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RIP swordies (unless you go full YugiMori mode).

Maybe most of the non-cleric players in our servers just suck. :stuck_out_tongue:

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I’ll play along; If our population is smaller and there are less TBL battles that take place due to a smaller population, then relatively speaking we have the same amount of clerics joining tbl compared to other classes.

So no, it doesn’t.

I’m not stating that your server has worse players then ours or otherwise. All I did was show you a screenshot of our current tbl ladder in which clerics didn’t rule the place.

But you’re right; I’ll send a new one at the end of the week so we can see how it developped.

because it is. Coz our top 100-200ranking need to compete vigorously in a high pop server.

why do u think dairy cow in new zealand will out run the bull in africa
because cow in new zealand arent faced with daily life threathening threat.

if many swordman/archer/wiz can reach top 10 tbl in fedimian, they dont feel the threat to reroll a cleric.

high pop induces competitiveness, and competitive result in higher skilled player.

why do u think no1 beat korean in starcraft other than korean themselves
coz outside korea, starcraft is just a casual game
in korea, starcraft is competitive and is a way of Life.

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appreciated.

thanks~

huehuehue

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NA/EU=they play the game
SA/SEA=the game plays them

Going simply by experience in other games in different regions westerners play at their pace. That’s why it’s not odd for you guys having more variations in your TBL ranking.

On the other hand SEA and SA players take their pvp competitions. Meta rule their heads.
seriously to a retarded degree.


The only time I see competitive plays from western players is at guild battles specifically what comes after that, the flaming guild drama.


iirc Koreans consider pc gaming an official sport

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Are you new to MMO’s ?

In every MMO healers/support are needed, because you know… they can heal and support :slight_smile:

Cata’s in our server can pull out 8k rush ticks, archers can one shot ppl with cannoneer/musk, wiz can still hard cc ppl and oneshot them, corsair3 has 19 sec hook on a 25 sec cd, etc etc. I hope you get my point; TBL isn’t balanced… and it’s not just clerics.

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maybe they can in your server. As long as we only have 1 healer in ET teams it seems fine with me. I still don’t get your point about clerics carrying other classes, I mean that’s what they are ā€˜supposed’ to do, you know… Support :slight_smile:. It’s not any different in any other MMO.

I’m glad EU TBL has more classes in it then. Seems more fun to me then a TBL only consisting of one class.

I think @Fuwaro actually has a point. Maybe we just don’t follow the Meta as hard as you guys do.

Anyways, apples and oranges. I hope you guys still enjoy your TBL experiences.

No negative feelings towards anyone, we each play the game in our own way.