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Tree of Cleric Scrubs

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#21

Heck CyroChonos now has respectable damage with Icewall+Iceblast.
Not that great, take time to set up icewalls directly under bosses but they now have decent burst.

#22

what else do you need besides this proof?

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the complain is 80-90% of clerics are facepalming PvP now. Rank 7 cap it was a mix of classes in the standings, now its just clerics. its stupidly unbalanced right now with clerics at the top of the triangle dominating both pve and pvp.

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#23

wait, roy defending cleric tree?

lel


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#24

but migzz, what about your server tbl ranking?

atleast telsai/varena we have a brave yugimori up there

what is the status for klapeida/orsha, fedimian, silute?

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#25

Not really defending, just pointing out his meaningless argument like hidden class and what not. What best shop, best bot
 it’s damn stupid lol.

He should just say “Clerics are OP in PvP”.

#26

so u agree cleric is op in pvp, right?

oh, dont mind the others pointers, coz tos real purpose is play dressing.

huehuehue

to add

Cleric has the best costume!

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#27

well you see I’m in Telsiai, and as a swordsman player, Yugimori is my cash god now. wkwkwkwkw

but see even so, look at his dam weapon to even reach that ranking. :joy:

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#28

That’s why I asked where are Lancers which can destroy magic circles, Clerics forte.

Nope, I can assume they are all dopples or fencers because PvE meta but wanting to PvP lol.

#29

my bad. respect to you as fellow SEA player!

im curious if other server have brave warrior like yugi~

i always look up to yugi~ ahhh~

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#30

So, all the clerics in that list is somehow a ‘Pure’ PVP class.
ALL.
I bet they can’t do sh*t in PVE at all eh. :joy:

#31

ya, where are the lancer?

i forgot lancer still busy farming lv10 transended to even compete in tbl.

hue~

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#32

Or more like there’s no lancers because lancer isn’t the meta. Lel

#33

They would. Look the agni necklace, it’s mainly a benefit for everyone in PvE. Early class getting stronger, faster runs, but people (including me) are complaining about it.

The problem in my opinion isn’t winning, losing or getting triggered because we’re not the top 1 dps in boss fights, it’s having things overpowered, there is no fun if everything is easier for some and harder for others, especially when you want to play something but it’s really bad, like swordsman before R8.

Don’t get me wrong, I have nothing against difficulty, but there is a difference between playing a high difficulty character and being rewarded when doing it right, and just using 1 skill and dealing the best damage possible.
We see other people enjoying what they are playing while being effective in their party, meanwhile we want to play something else that isn’t meta and get a bummer.

I don’t know what is your level but if you just do your daily dungeon runs, you’re gonna skip pretty fast the early ranks and get your hand on plague doctor/kabbalist where the cleric meta starts.
Even if you keep going on Oracle, you’ll have an obvious use as a healer in parties.
tl;dr : Early level quests won’t be a problem for you, and once you’ll be R7 or R8, you’ll have no problem fiding a party.

These are not arguments, OP just said the main features of cleric, serious business or not.
I never said I agree with them (even if it’s the case) nor I disagree. I was just showing that it wasn’t only because of PvP.
If you knew the glorious hueknights you would know that the post isn’t a serious one or whatever we should call it. Of course these aren’t constructive arguments.

#34

even yugi needed +10 regard horn with level 10 transcend to even be up there. lol

~hailyugi

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#35

how much does that yugi weapon translate to rmt peso/sing dollar/myr/thai bhat?

my kidney couldnt even buy that
 (dam n u alcohol)

huehuehue~

btw, any klapeida/orsha, fedimian, silute folks gonna contribute the pic of their current tbl top 10 ranking?

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#36

I bet the main reason why people are “Clericing” is because Cleric is the most gameplay-diverse base class.

Don’t you want to:

  • have free access to healing&curing (Cleric)
  • outwit death?(Priest)
  • summon Divine thunder to smite your enemies? (Krivis)
  • turn your enemies into zombieslaves and blow them up? (Bokor)
  • carve deadly&helpful statues from wooden blocks? (Dievdirbys)
  • have out of body-phenomena regularly? (Sadhu)
  • Convict or condemn your enemies? (Paladin)
  • throw Jan-Ken punches& Kamehameha at your enemies? (Monk)
  • become a tax-loather scrooge on the way to the riches? (Pardoner)
  • be a total random guy with quirky skills& sentence others to die? (Oracle)
  • become a shape-shifting grass-junkey monster werewolf? (Druid)
  • be a Plague fighter who became a corrupted Plague spreader instead? (Plague Doctor)
  • be a Number mystician/magician who does work mostly without any numbers? (Kabbalist)
  • be a Daoistic priest without any connection to Fung Shue? (Taoist)
  • or be the torture chamber master himself? (Inquisitor)

the gameplay is so diverse here, while, when you look at the other sides=

Archer:
pet class
riding class
trapper class
bow&arrow class

Except of Sapper the gameplay is just pew pew no-brainer. As boring as in every other MMORPG (except RO where there was Bard to make Archer interesting&different). Not even a single support class, every green colored class circle is a trap!

Swordsman:
riding class
different weapons
guild master class
repair class
Ninja class

poof, even more boring than Archer, gg. No support class, basically 1-2 tank classes
 Where is the Magic Knight class?

Wizard:
summoning classes
elemental magic
poor-scaling support
high utility classes (Chronomancer/Linker) to decrease leveling time

again something that I don’t really like in the game, the Wizard isn’t really diverse but rather randomly split up. It feels less diverse than ROs Sage&Wizard because in the end every Wizard is still a caster class; There is ± no option to become a melee attacker or tactical buff-supporter because it cripples your survivability&damage beyond repair.

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#37

I thought I was the only one thinking of it so far
 Thanks for bringing me hope

#38

i want power ranger class but imc discontinued it

(centurion)

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#39

I was hoping Paladin would be in the Swordsman side but IMC be like nah, makes me think of Crusaders will exist it’s probably gonna be on the cleric side, IMC will give them bonus for wielding 1h sword because this is tree of clerics. Then clerics will get the holy-trinity of divine warriors (Paladin-Inquisitor-Crusader) :joy:

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#40

I don’t think cleric is OP, or this is Tree of Cleric in fact.

  1. Lower cleric rank have the best synergies among all other classes. Heal, Divine Might, Safety Zone will never go obsolete. Diev statues such as Austrine and others will always be useful, priest’s revive is an excellent buff.

  2. Higher cleric classes have good DPS and utility: Druid, PD with Agni, Inquisitor and Taoist with the recent addition of Miko.

  3. Above 2 factors made clerics to have good self sustainability along with some burst damage which is the golden key to PvP in any MMORPG.

  4. Class design and class identity. Let’s face it, PvP isn’t that came into IMC’s mind when doing class design. It was the class identity that mattered the most. Who are the bokors, krivises (anyone know the plural for krivis), priests, plague doctors and Mikos? They made skills related to their identities and apparently those identities tend to be exorcists, medicine man, holy man, that can self sustain themselves in battle while dishing out good damage. I only disagreed that Paladin was in Cleric tree, If it was in the swordman tree with the same heal skills


Nevertheless, its all about mindset playing the game for fun or playing the game to win. Be who you are or just follow the meta. But I do enjoy watching the toxicity of this forum raise up time to time.