the only problems would be security lol… it all boils down to their capability to manage the damn system… that’s all … they should do a good job with all the money $$$ they can earn
trust me… before too long…@GM_sebastian will ask @Blubbolo or us to construct a pie chart or histogram or compose a name list of possible bots hahahaha. we all like math.
I think what IMC needs to do to combat bots is to be more visible IN-GAME and ban bots in real time like in old school RO. You can see Game Masters with their Ban Hammer roaming around fields to personally ban bots.
It’s like in real life… It somehow prevents crime whenever the visibility of Police is high on streets.
do you really want to trust imc with your ssn?
are u guys on crack?
lol I know. They can’t even secure their own game from add-on exploits. People think they can secure their SS # from identity theft.
ask steam or other companies to take over hahahahaha
Dude like… you realize you sound like a psychopath right? It’s kinda annoying now lol.
It’s just a video game. If it’s causing you to turn into an insane lunatic, it’s definitely time to find something else.
i guess… it’s time for me to go back psychiatric ward now…need my crack.
you just need GM in game, ppl to call to when you see a bot.
it can either be staff members or ppl from the community, but SOMEONE should be in game.
if they have too much report/too much to work with, they can “”"""“hire”""""" (like giving them small ammount of tps) pleyer to be a gm-like figures to answear whisper from player reporting bots/gold seller/exploiter/random c u n t.
You still just sound like a teenager who is raging to me. All the things you try to point out that’s wrong with this game is the same thing pretty much every game faces. In pretty much all games players complain.
In real life you have the same thing. People complain about capitalist pigs and how they do what they want with jobs and that the only way to get ahead is “grinding” your job 40+ hours a week to get money to survive on and they don’t seem to understand at all how the world works. Criminals who are smart make a crap ton of money IRL. Because of the risks involved and the fact its illegal not alot of people want to do it. But when you find people like Drug Cartel leaders who decide u know what i make my own rules and screw everyone else in the world i dont care if the world burns as long as ill do what i want. Then you have police and such trying to catch them and put them in prison and they just buy their way out or break out or they end up being in prison forever.
Same concept in games. Even if botters get banned and the game isn’t free to play they make enough money by selling in game stuff with their insane amounts of bots they are still collecting massive amounts of profits even if they get 5-10 accounts banned PER DAY. So you take into account there is many many companies out there botting and running websites…If they banned 100 accounts a day you would never notice a difference. Because in that 24 hours they will more than make up for it.
Say each company loses 10 accounts PER DAY and lets say the price for the game is 10 euroes or whatever. In the shouts i see daily it seems the going price for 2.5m is like 10 euroes or whatever. On my sorc i can go around killing in a very small area in dina bee farm and make around 100k every 10 minutes. So if we think that the bots aren’t as good as killing as players and assume they make 50k every 10 minutes instead. So that means they will make 300k an hour. Now to pay for 1 game they would need to bot there for roughly 9 hours. So in a 24 hour period that means that just 1 level 160+ character botting in dina bee farm can pay for roughly 2.7 game copies. So to pay for those 10 games being banned they would need to only 6 characters just botting there to for 24 hours. Now thats without selling ANY loot at all.
Now when you think that this game is FREE TO PLAY. It really doesn’t matter HOW MANY botters get banned per day there will still be just as many. Why? Because it’s constant profit for the botting companies. They lose nothing at all. Even if they IP banned it wouldnt matter because its really not hard to VPN.
Your complaining sounds like someone complaining that rain only falls down instead of up. Or complaining because people have to eat and sleep to live. Aka your complaining about something that you or anyone else cannot completely prevent. Instead of complaining and focusing so much on bots and botters maybe you should just enjoy the game report them when u see them if u want and move on. My main is level 166 at the moment and its not my only character and bots haven’t affected me at all.
Alot of people dont realize this but because of bots alot of gear ends up cheaper and easier to get because bots find it and sell it on the market and so on. If it wasn’t for bots a considerable portion of good gear would be more than double its current price. Sure thats good for those that happen to find that piece of gear and want to sell it but when your trying to find it/buy it thats bad. Im not saying bots are a good thing. Im saying they are inevitable and they don’t really impact your gameplay in a negative way. If they are impacting your gameplay in a negative way your playing the game wrong. They might be annoying but it’s pretty easy to change channels and go on.
You have common sense and employ logic. You i like.
I just want to point out that just because crime is going to exist, it doesn’t mean you do nothing to try to stop it anyways. It isn’t really about being able to stop all botters, RMT, exploiters, cheaters, murderers, Drug Cartel leaders, no one can stop it all, but you can deter it and keep it controlled so it isn’t running rampant and screwing with people’s lives.
I mean a bit of history can show you the results of the alcohol ban in the early 1990s in the USA. Mobsters running around all over the place, public shootings were rampant and the black market was an epidemic. Why? Because banning alcohol was stupid. No one saw anything wrong with it, so people saw no problems buying from the black market to get alcohol even though their purchasing of “illegal” alcohol was contributing to the crime in their cities.
This sorta logic applies to a couple situations we are seeing here:
It’s sad but true. A free to play model basically allows RMTers to run their business without any risk. A banned account means nothing to them when it’s free to just go right back into the game. This is why no matter how many bots are banned, they will come right back because there is no reason for them not to. These bans are basically a pointless waste of time to try to prolong the life of the game’s economy but it offers no solution.
There can be benefits to the pricing of items in the market it’s actually true whether people want to admit it or not. But if the problem is left to escalate and is never controlled, it will start causing harm to the economy of the game as well as a player’s ability to enjoy the game. (Such as those bot armies you used to see where you had like 20 bots roaming around an area that people were posting screenshots of) I really don’t want to see it get out of hand.
But in a free to play model, I don’t think there’s a solution besides hitting the ban hammer and creating a system to help auto detect simple bot programs. And that at least keeps things ‘controlled’ so it does not get out of hand.
Yeah he has devolved to that since his initial post lol.
chill bro… the rage isnt directing to you.
everything is a part of the ecology IRL or games.
i know the botters or rmt aint going away, that’s why we need police,religion and government to brain wash u guys and keep the order of the society, just like in the games~ we need imc.
u still can enjoy the games no matter which side u choose. u could be RMT, botter, or pest.
is prostitution good or bad? is prostitution necessary? is crack good or bad? obviously, we all know the answer. there is necessary evil in politic and RL…
have fun.
Wasn’t imply you should do nothing. I even said that doesn’t mean you should do nothing to stop it. Meaning completely. You can deter it but expecting it to disappear is unrealistic and isnt going to happen.
Didn’t think it was directed at me. Just thought everything you where saying sounded like a teenager raging with incoherent and illogical thought. Nothing you where saying made sense logically.
All im saying is raging and complaining about botting and quitting over it is pretty silly. You will always find it everywhere u go. If you enjoy the game stay there. If the botting is truly crippling the game thats another story. But from my experience it definately isn’t destroying the game. I would say the players afking in areas with summons is more detrimental to the game than botters. Bots don’t seem to use their skills all that often and completely destroy groups of mobs really fast. Pretty easy to work around them.
GG.
As i said in a free to play game removing all bots is impossible. You can slightly deter them but there are so many companies out there trying to make money they are going to find a way around your anti cheat systems and it doesnt really matter if all of their accounts get banned every single day it costs them NOTHING to make all new 1s.
This is not the first game like this and it wont be the last. I’ve yet to see that many bots and even if you report every single 1 they will be remade. Yes you should report but its not gonna lessen the amount of bots. As we have seen in so many situations regardless of the security it still can be hacked. Meaning regardless of the anti cheat measures a game developer have they cannot prevent botters completely.
Fun when there are only 300 people playing a game ( don’t even think 100 people play that game really, most are afk alts / bots ). this game has 13000 people with multiple servers going on. Good luck getting 3 gms on that server and also get 3 for each channel. Because it basically is multiple servers in each server and then get it for all the servers on top of it.
You gona pay them half a million each month?
And what if 2000 people start to whisper those gm’s and they can only solve because 8 hour work day 10% of the complains? the other toxic 90% is going to fill up the forum with.
But but but they ignored me, this game is crap. Everything sucks cry cry. Bad steam review blablabla.
It’s not that easy mate, there is no way to counter bots effectively.
You don’t make any sense.
I gave an example of what they did on euRO.
euRO had 6k player on 2 server, even if you take in consideration the number after the merge, you get 4k ppl on it, and thats 2 to 4 times the number of player on each server of itos (if you split 13k for all the server we have, you get 1 to 2k per server ) , that means that we have less player for gm ratio here (would have).
The channel thing is just a big nosense? What does it matter anyway?
Even if there are 20 channel, doesnt mean you need 20 gm, one for every channel.
You need 1 gm (ofc you need more for the whole server) , he gets a call, goes to see and do his thing, he gets a call on 2 channel? He goes to those 2 channel, saying that you need 2 gm for 2 channel is just pointless.
You dont even have to pay them (duh, i wrote it btw), you could get 20 ppl per server to “work” as a gm (in their spare time, like they did ob euRO) for free or for a small ammount of tps.
Im sure of it, im sure there are even more than 20 ppl willing to do it for small ammount of tps.
Even if they could solves 10% of all report, it would be a HUGE improvement and it would actually show the community that they can talk to someone to fix a problem (botting, gold seller) asap, instead of waiting 1,2,3 weeks.
There isnt a easy way out of the bot problem, THERE ARE tools and way to contain it.
Banning players after they receive x ammount of report its not one of them.
Saing that they can’t ban bots because they are too few and gets too many report, its not one of them.
Simple, give the power to interrupt bots, for further IMC avaliation, to responsible and dedicated players.
I’d really agree to that idea, open world PvP is fun, exciting aaaaaaand not boring.
You’ll be like Ash and the bots are the pokemons (gotta punch em` all) lol
