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Tos Neet Polls! Keep Tos Neet Alive!(Vote here)

I hate to say this, but they can slap ads on the website to help generate some revenue.

That or at least IMC gets the ball rolling on making an API

I’m currently involved in a nano-degree program as a Google Scholarship recipient that will result in a certification as a Mobile-Web Specialist. I’m also a current TOS player. That being said, I’m also in a stretch of many months of resumes and applications, etc. and due to the massive competition it is extremely difficult to find a job in web development (remote).

That being said, I’d absolutely be willing to donate time to this endeavor if there was some form of donations as you said. I certainly could use the assistance keeping the electricity and internet running while I finish my certification.

make a prototype and put up some results
then maybe someone will help you financially

I’m surprised people are willing to pay for a simple feature that some other games offer for free since they benefit the game. I’m also surprised to find out the site isn’t automated with patches.

I enjoy the tool though, hope they decide to keep it going.

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Not too many games offer a free wiki ran by the devs/company themselves.

Even Dotards 2 and League of Lesbi*ns are run by 3rd party companies.

FFXIV, WOW, Destiny are three I can name off the top of my head, I recall Ragnarok Online having one too a while back when Gravity cared but I could be wrong, its been so long. League of Legends and Dota makes sense though since they’re not mmorpgs (was mostly just referring to mmo’s).

Which are both free to use and make revenue from ads.

The wikis for the 3 you just named are all run by 3rd parties.

Google search for all of them has no official wiki on the first page.

The issue with 3rd party companies running them is that they are not always fully updated. Someone has to rip the databases and dump the data. Xanax’s idea of an API won’t help with a wiki (You…generally don’t run a Wiki off an API, or at all.)

Edit: As a side note, there have been issues (and under table fights) when a community wishes to move a wiki hosted on one of the ‘free’ providers (wik*a) to another. Its one of the problems when dealing with 3rd party ‘free’ hosters.

I give much props to Grita for running tos.neet without ads, and wishes him/her all the best.

FFXIV have the Lodestone and WoW have the Armory officially where you can look up items(for the current version). Granted, even if these games offers a way to look at the database(very limited, so), people still use stuff like MMO-Champ/WoWhead or XIVdb/garlond/xivclock anyway, because features matter. Ragnarok Online also perhaps had an item database like the aforementioned(til 2007, I didn’t play after that)… but like them, there was no drop rates publicly in it or anything else beyond “these items exist”.

That’s the thing with IMC here as well, even if they published a database, if it wouldn’t have a talent calculator, people wouldn’t care as much for it. For WoW, XIV and RO if one want/wanted to run simulations or go more in detail, they have to go to a third party. If iTOS also didn’t serve the latest juicy from kTOS, they would care even less about it. Valkoria probably forgot that no company offers something as tos.neet does, and very rarely do, and if IMC did, it’d /actually/ would be out of the norm.

Yeah, I excluded those because they aren’t exactly a ‘wiki’, just a ‘these items exist’ list, as you said. No quest info etc as well beyond quest names.

Honestly I think this is kinda unfair. You say we must respect her decision but creates this to put pressure on him/her. Grita already made her decision, if you really respect it just move on.

And yes, I use tos.neet constantly. I think this topic should be to create a new site in a community effort. You could also contact Grita to see if he/she is willing to share the database, but I imagine someone already tried this.

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Made a generic calculator for Enhancement and Transcendence values in the hope it can be useful in the meantime:

I don’t have time right now to add Velcoffer (not on tos.neet) and other lower level items (too many *1.5 and *1.7 adjustments needed), I’ll try add the most common presets later, or you can do it if you got some spare time.

You can use the “-” preset to add custom values for Velcoffer and other items for now.

Make a copy of the spreadsheet if you want to avoid concurrent usage.

Also, I got the enhancement formulas from tos.neet and adjusted based on the announcements instead of getting them from the game’s current state. The result should be the same and it matches for most things, if you find inconsistencies let me know.

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who gives a fk whether it’s fair or not.

Make it open source. Done. Problem solved.

I would just like to add that we, at IMC, were very sad to hear that Based Grita had discontinued his/her work TOS Neet. I wanted to let you all know that IMC is currently trying to get in touch with Based Grita just to chat about his/her work. We are not sure whether we will be able to get a hold of him/her in the future but we are hoping for the best!

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Joined : Jun 18
New staff??!

Welcome @STAFF_Bob.
:satisfaction: :hi:

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Hello to you too!
And thank you for your warm welcome!
:haha:

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So, we all going back to tosbase?

Lets pray for grita, btw why imc don’t try to continue her work as an oficial “content” from the webpage or make oficial apps for android (Mobile in general) to get a practical skill simulator or something to help our community o3o btw i’m pretty sad that we prolly loose that tools uwu
:sad:

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Exactly. Given how it is STILL easy to screw a build up and how adamant IMC is at NOT giving resets when it counts, we urgently need these tools to be official.

Hey, nice to see that IMC cares about that kind of stuff.

I hope something good will come from this :distinguished:

And yeah an official Database as functional as Grita’s would be so good.