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TIME vs MONEY... Which do you have?

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#43

In an ideal world that would be all there is to the story, but sadly in reality things tend to balance out.
As such, by asking the game to be made quicker, you are asking for it to be made shallower and less effort. Naturally this also means that those who do have time, or just more time than you, will get bored of the game quicker, which backfires on IMC’s bottom line as well, not to mention your game play when you are left with less and less people to play with.

TL;DR: Im also a founder, Im working 4 shifts, some times day, some times night, some times 8, some times 12 hours.
That being said, i would not want the game to be easier or quicker, because that takes all sense of accomplishment from it. In early ro hitting 99 meant something. I would like that to remain.
No pain, no gain, or to be more precise: Absolutely no feeling of gain.

[quote=“Arcanix, post:42, topic:153577, full:true”]We all have time to play a video game, we just don’t have AS MUCH time as we would like because some people work quite long hours.[/quote]As i said above, i work as well, and not even in a standard 8 hour line, so i can relate.
I still do not appreciate any form of idea to make the game shallow.
Part of enjoying the game is actually achieving things in it. Workarounds just abolish this.

#44

I’ve played Clash of Clans since 2012, and spent maybe $20 on the game. Why so little? Because my phone is with me 24/7 and I can pretty much play all the time. I easily can drop $1000 and end CoC right now, but that would take away from the sense of accomplishment. I get you… But ToS is different. I don’t have my computer everywhere I go. I can’t just play when ever I feel like it. The 2 hours a day that I have available to play ToS needs to be maximized. Thus the reasoning for my post. If YOU gain satisfaction from getting to level 600 without spending any cash, then do that! I’m simply arguing that I can’t do that.

#45

Cash shop should cater to:

  • Cosmetics
  • Time saving features

Of the time saving features, they should implement a comprehensive cash shop that:

  • Boost xp progression (they are doing this)
  • A boost on a boost on xp progression (something stronger than token but lasts shorter and is much more expensive)
  • A boost to silver accumulation (they have tax reduction)
  • Item analogues --> don’t have time to farm the arde dagger? Buy it in cash shop (called arse dagger, j.k. lol)
  • Don’t have time to gather mats? --> buy a box of mats in cash shop
  • Don’t have time to make potions? --> buy a box of analogue potions in cash shop

And any additional time saving features that will not impact game balance.

To ensure sales are good, the items should be slightly cheaper than going the route of selling token --> get silver --> buy said items from market.

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#46

I don’t know where you get that impression,but most are only against buying stats with $.

i.e. get stats with magic scrolls, or +3 move speed stat on Token (just give EVERYONE that +3 move speed)

But, I digress.

@Skygrinder

we are all ok with those restrictions because we know that you need a token to actually play the game. It’s a subscription based game with a free trial more than a F2P with a completely broken cash shop at this point in time.

@duytueha

watch out, sarcasm is against forum rules.

#47

That’s the funny thing, even some p2p games with free trials have unrestricted 1:1 trading, LOL.

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#48

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#49

Unless I attack somebody by using their name with my sarcasm then, nope, I don’t see any problem with it.
Btw, you are not my dad, stop looking over me.

#50

why are you so edgy?

#51

wow i see my name feels special so i found my first lil private stalker and fanboy <3 tho on a serious note im only serious in serious topics - not serious on tiny wh…you know

sooo on topic time vs money - i got both dont care

#52

Guys please stop this. Just play the game and enjoy Or just lock this thread. Its inappropriate for our community to argue things that are not related to the game.

#53

Then why are you here? are you a kid? Go to play Minecraft then :angry:

#54

/kid detected, cannot identify between a statement and an argument.

#55

Sorry but you chose to be a dad, have a family and work for 12 hours. All three of those things required you to invest your life to it and you knew that. Putting a P2W format would give the rich daddy kids and people who play video games as a job (streamers, youtubers, reviewers) an unfair advantage over everyone else.

#56

I absolutely hate what IMC do here, VIP, really?
It’s P2W no matter how you look at it, because you gain huge benefits over other players, more trading, more selling, more stash, more EXP! (30%! HUGE) and even movementpseed, ridiculous.
Cash shop with customes would be totally fine and don’t argue with “yeah, but they need to make cash blablabla” that’s what the cash shop for.
(even more hilarious is cash shop+vip, as much as i like this game, i can’t buy such bullcrap)
The price itself, isn’t statisfying either. OP

IMC Delete VIP Status < do it, now

#57

To black_light and to everyone with his mentailty all I have to say that is uncalled for what right do you have to declare your in the right by saying what you said read his last line.

“I intend of being one of the players who will regularly pay for IMC’s cash benefits. That way, players who DONT pay will still have a game to play.”

At least this person accepts he has responsibility as a father and family man to put them before a game If you don’t like cash shops and people who use them go find another game because where you put no money into the game what has the game lost but one more player taking up a server player slot and just wait some seconds when a player who does not mind the cash shop replaces your slot from you leaving and helps the company by investing in cash shop items.

Hope this shows how insignificant you truly are.

#58

He wants to be able to access end game content despite not having as much time as when he was younger. It’s reasonable.

#59

i have nothing hahaha

#60

you’re a beautiful person. I’m laughing so hard right now :joy:

#61

gotta agree to the time saving features

i see MMO have this on their cash shop like material box or potion box that contains % restoration pots or xxx restoration pots with lower cooldown than the ordinary one like in RF Online where there’s a potion in cash shop that is almost half cd than the original (5k hp restore for 3 sec then the cash pots is 1.5 sec) or 3 mins cooldown reduction pots (reduces cooldown of all skills by 1.5 sec) or invisibility pots (invisibile for 2-3 mins)

#62

I started playing MMO’s in 1998 when I was 13. I’m now 31 and still playing them. Although, I have much less time then I did back then. It’s still fun and something that I enjoy doing during the evening when time allows.

With that being said I have 2 kids of my own now and have much more money then I have time. However, that doesn’t mean that I can enjoy an mmo all the same.

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