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Three questions about Chaplain~

Class and Rank Cleric
#1

Heyo, I have three questions about the Chaplain class and they are as follows…

Edit: I’d like to mention that I’m just doing this for 100% pve party/solo hybrid thing, capabale of any and all, not really interested in pvp as things are now

  • Is Magnus worth it? And if so, how on earth should I distribute skills cus they all seem too good to pass up.

  • How should I distribute stats? I see some people say tons of int 0 spr and rest con, while others say TONS of SPR while like 30-50% int, what is the better option?

  • I was thinking of doing Cleric priest Priest Priest Chaplain krivis Cleric
    Watcha think? It’s mostly to get as much healing out there as possible, is it a waste to not get plague or is the idea I’m currently working on fine?

Thanks for taking your time, and i’m looking forward to reading your three cents about my questions. C:

#2

Magnus is very hard to use, since exorcise will disappear the moment a ground enemy touches it. This reserves the skill for flying-only enemies. I would recommend getting it last or not at all.

Stats depend on your goals for the character, so I will need you to answer that question before i can help you. Do you want to PVE party? PVP? Solo?

That order of classes does not work. You can’t get Chaplain before you get c3 priest. So that would make your build

Cleric Priest Priest Priest Chaplain Krivis Cleric, or some flavor of that.

#3

I’m not sure about the other questions, but I can tell you that your build path is impossible. This is because Chaplain requires you to be C3 Priest to even advance to it.

#4

Ahhh, thank you, and I editted my post so thati t says pure Pve, and I was hoping for partyplay / solo? Both in one? Cleric priest priest priest chaplain krivis cleric sounds alright, if that is good that is.

#5

Pure PVE…well you want around 50 CON so you don’t get 1 shot by things, also some SPR would be nice but between 20-50.

Rest in INT. As you level up you can put points where you want to make up for shortcomings in your build. Don’t be rigid with your build.

Getting cleric2 makes sense to me, but missing out on a rank6 or 7 class is a tad confusing. You can get Daino scrolls if you are worried about the buff limit.

#6

Wouldn’t the daino scroll only work for me? someone told me that before :open_mouth:

#7

my chaplain has 220 spirit, 70 con. haven’t touched him in a while though.

imo it’s a waste not to get plague Doctor or even cabalist

cleric2 works wonders though.

#8

No Daino is a party-wide skill.

#9

Even if used from scroll?
If so I’ll skip going krivis and pick cleric c3 or something. :stuck_out_tongue:

#10

I lied about there only being 3 questions, because another one came up that I could use answering… Whati s better for me, plate or cloth?

#11

You really want to consider getting a rank 6 or 7 class like plague doctor, Kabbalist or druid.

cleric c3 is nice but may not be as helpful as the other high rank classes.

Plate for HP
Cloth for SP

I would say Plate would be better, I don’t think you will be having SP issues.

#12

C2 Cleric >>>>>>>>>>> Krivis for Rank 6. You’ll get better healing for party play and more sturdier Safety Zone. Trust me, 10 tiles of Heal and Mass Heal hardly enough when you start doing level 145+ Dungeon :v

Daino Scroll will eventually flood market (I’m making pardoner alt solely for it, kek). As for Armor, a lot prefer full Plate for better survivability due to plate mastery bonus. Or you can just mix and match with different armors if they gives good stats bonus, its all up to you.

#13

I was mostly thinking for the increase of magic attack/amplification to get some extra poof, so far I’ve used plate on all my other chars.

#14

You will need Accuracy on Plate / Leather glove as you need to actually hit enemy with physical attack first before it can trigger Aspergillum / Last Rites / Sacrament. My current stats so far is 200 INT, 80 Con and the rest goes to Spr (Currently pumping Spr all way to cap level). I personally using full Plate atm, still missed some attacks but not at “OH MY GOD HIT ALREADY” rate.

#15

i play my cleric alt right now and must say i choose cleric c2 for one reason - not the heal but the extra saftey zone triggers + divine might to have one more level in stone skin…i think those are more likely the main reasons to go for cleric c2 - also ill go oracle + pd later on

and ya spr > int if youre going priest c3 imo - planning on having 25k hp with equip and putting rest stats into spr…stone skin skyrockets with high spr - also oracle helps alot in pve/pvp and prevents possible dps on your party wich makes it a noteworthy c6 class - also adding the fun factor of having a free change every now and then - and i love fun skills (being number one fan of snow rolling)

@all tho i got a question - whats the max level possible on stone skin? using divine might + gems (aka how many gems can i equip to raise the cap?) please just somebody who used more than 1 gem or knows if i can only equip one of those and not 2 - farming those gets pretty tiring i dont wanna waste time to farm a 2nd one and not being able to use it

#16

Well, lots of people say to invest in SPR or INT, but i am a Chaplain, with STR/CON/DEX and i dont see my build faulter in any way. Even support that INT and SPR should be stats for it. I see my physical damage oriented stats beeing capable of the task so far. Healing others is all about how much HP your target have. Even mass heal.

In other hand, other abilities such as Sacrament, or Last Rites aren’t base on any stat. The same goes for Blessing, Monstrance, Ressurection or Revive. The only 2 skill that are base on SPR, Stone Skin and Aspersion. But still, there is too much debate on and not much real proof that SPR will trully make Aspergillum hit harder.

So then again, why Cleric need to have SPR in their build? What are the real gain? Maybe INT would make some sense to be druid later, but not SPR. And i don’t see Chaplain be a very SP dependet class.

P.S. Don’t pay to much attention to may bad english!

#17

Which is why i said from the get go that chaplains can run any stat build, even if str/dex aren’t as good as the other options.

But to be fair, int & spr are the best dmg choices by far due to them being affected by the aspersion enhance attribute (+100% dmg) and them being holy dmg. (+100% dmg vs dark enemies.)

Spr still scales stone skin, monstrance, deprotected zone and zalciai so it’s a more defensive variant with debuffs.

Int also boosts healing and all magic dmg (so it boosts your r6-7 spell dmg options as well.) Plus it gets that +10% stat bonus per rank.

#18

I am trying a pure SPR build as Chaplain so far and it’s very good party support. SPR definitely makes aspersion hit harder, is there still any debate on this? Putting a point in spirit immediately increases the damage of aspersion, it’s 100% proven.

SPR builds are nice in pvp although int might be better in pve. Spirit builds give you nearly infinite mana to sustain in long fights, makes stone skin incredible and with 100% stone skin uptime through capella you basically take no damage from physical attackers.

Several cleric buffs and debuffs also scale with spirit, it also gives block penetration which can actually be a factor in pvp, and some Magic defense which usually doesn’t matter but never hurts. I would say INT is better for pve but spirit might be better for pvp. Chaplain is already pretty bad in pvp and if you go STR/CON/DEX build you are in for a bad time, especially because the other cleric classes that scale with STR/DEX are even worse in pvp.

#19

stats depend on your build
im 13x and at 15x spr or so and around 50 con
cleric-priest-priest-priest-chap
will be adding krivis then pd at rank 6 and 7
i pop on asper and wreck stuff even in the 130 dungeon i kill mobs faster then most dps classes

#21

Hey reptar,

I like your build and I would like to make a few comments on it.
I’m currently lv 97 Priest C3, so no expert AT ALL ! :sweat_smile:

I don’t see the benefit on having more than one point in Ress, while getting Revive 2 grants you access to the attribute wich increases the buff duration for 35 secs.

I’m not sure if Mass heal 4 is enough for healing, even with Heal 10 – Maybe someone could shed some light on this?
Considering I’m also Full Int.

Seeing that you aim for Kabba, I think investing more on Mass Heal would be great, since I guess Ein Sof max HP increase synergises awesomely with it.
I got Bless 5 myself, but plan on reseting to 3 to get more mass heal - level 3 grants you the Enhance Attribute wich is damn sexy - people say bless is kinda weak on later levels because it doesn’t scale.

Also, on Cleric C2 I’d get Divine Might 5 and resetting cure to 1 and also getting DPZ 3, again for the awesome enhance attribute.
This seems like a more supportive approach, Cure does insane amount of damage at the level I’m at. But anyways Divine Might 5 looks to good to pass on.

Please note that I’m not experienced and this might be bullsh** theorycrafting.

What do you guys think ?