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This new attribute token thing

To be fair though they will have to spend buttloads of money.
20$ token 2mil silver each. say… 400mil to lv 100 a c9 skill.
Thats 4000$? lol
You have 5 skills. Thats 20,000$.
Pple who are willing to spend that much deserve some kind of temporary advantage lol

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[quote=“marcello, post:60, topic:224522, full:true”]
with ppl buying reset potions, lv 100 attribs, endgame gear without any effort
[/quote]Have you seen the amount of threads of whiners?
To be honest, I can see this happening so you better get out while you can.
Just like RO, the community ruins the game quicker than the developers.

Unfortunately I won’t play any of those games because I don’t like their mechanics and graphics.
If you have at least a game recommendation with cute graphics… I’ll take one!

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Try Black Desert Online, best graphs on a mmo out there… and the community demanded that the internacional version didnt have any p2w like the asian one and they did listen to that. Game seens great atm

I really dislike that game. Two of my friends were playing it before they got sick of it and one is busy playing ToS right now. I can see how it caters to some crowd though.
But I’m not joking when I said I want a game with cute graphics.

Can you list some bad points about black desert?
one of my friends is really interested to try it

x.x it looks interesting but I just don’t appreciate the graphics and mechanics.
I think my friends just got bored of it, they still follow the news and often share the new classes and such but they never talk about the game anymore.

I would still recommend your friend to try it if it looks interesting though. There’s a lot of good reviews about it.
I think it’s pretty high on the steam sales rank too, so if they like that kind of game (sandbox etc), it might be really fun

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It’s very bad . My Silver gone very fast. Orz

but you got the attribute didnt you :slight_smile:

I Feel its good for those like us can spend more money than time in the game…
Process by waiting is plain bore and finally this stop waiting is great…
If we can stacks our exp scroll till 1000% then i will be more happy than ever so we dont have to waste so much time training…

there are about as many threads back in CBT2 complaining about how training some skills took too long as there are now complaining about how those same skills are now instant.

There always complain all over the MMO cyber life, but for us i just wanna enjoy till the bit end…

I couldnt tell if your previous statement was sarcasm or not lol

Nah, its a great things not to wait…

I agree with you, not a single game has cute graphics.

I came from Elsword Online (Really loved the graphics style), but the extremely obvious flaws of the game made the game never worth to recommend to others (community ruined that game as I can see them ruining this one by asking to be babied more and more, thus riding the aspects of the game one by one as they tend to no longer exist).

All MMOs these days either tend to be severely outdated (and no, graphics aren’t everything. For example, ToS to me is a dated game despite outdated graphic reach), all these games like Final Fantasy and Black Dessert and Blade and Soul are, honestly, really ugly. They aim towards that realisticish demographic, which is strange with how popular anime is.

Even most unwesternized anime MMO’s from korea actually either suck or are ugly, I don’t get it.
Why is a cute MMO so hard??

ToS is pretty nice, I still don’t know if this is main worthy though. I already seeing the community whining about things and them being taken away (not that it’s a huge deal, but it’s not looking too promising for the future), the lack of customization extremely bothers me, and the gameplay doesn’t actually allow too much freedom outside of builds.

I may have been spoiled a bit in the graphics and freedom of mobility aspects in the past, but why is that so hard to come by…

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I was against the instant attribute learning, but your logic is MASSIVELY flawed here.

In League of Legends you can also buy rune pages and champions. This means you can instantly buy what takes other players literally thousands of hours to buy.

yeah well, there’s rune page and champions, and exp boost and IP boost.
that is true, and if we look at it in a very very broad perspective we can say that League of legends store is P2W. but let me clear your mind from the problem with this one quote.

“everything that can change the flow of games in League of Legends are not ONLY buyable by cash”, but there are a lot of things that can change the flow of the game in ToS that are ONLY buyable by cash. i really hope you understand what i was saying.

such as…? I’d like at least 5 examples please, since there’s apparently a ‘lot’. Remember, convenience items don’t count, as you can just get to the same point without cash. Otherwise they also count in League of Legends. You can’t have it both ways.

I’ll actually save you the time. There are only convenience and cosmetic items, with the exception of megaphones and enchant scrolls.

Megaphones are also purchasable at the rate of almost 5 per day with the free TP you are given. I would hardly even call them cash shop items.

Enchant scrolls also drop in game, but they are so rare that we can ignore that. They could be considered P2W, and you could make that argument I guess, but given how easy it is to just buy the stats you want on a headgear in game, that’s going to be the best option for 99% of players anyways.

As far as token benefits, like I said, I was against the instant attribute learning. I thought they should just be allowed to queue attributes instead, which would make it fair. This would make it no different than being able to constantly play, like some people have the option of.

oh so you don’t think enchant scrolls are p2w, alright.

a universally rideable mount is coming only for token user,
silver anvil.
the purple gem that can be used to upgrade things
^these item might not be there right now or they might.
i mean seriously, at this point all i can see from what you said is that “i don’t want to hear anything you said, i just want you to know that League of Legends store is not better” and i don’t mind even if you mean it that way.

of course i will not talk about convenience item like, 10 revival gem which we can totally buy with the free TP but unfair item are there and or will be there in the TP shop.

it is easy to add anything into ToS cash shop anytime the dev want because the game itself doesn’t belief in the cosmetic only TP shop. so even if today you just want to shoot me down even though enchant scroll is totally unfairly p2w it does not matter because we don’t know what’s to come and the ideology of ToS cash shop allow it to be P2W unlike League of Legends store in which we know what will be in there evident by how long the game has been out and the current content of the League of Legends cash shop. the 0 waiting time of the token user benefit is so huge and non paying can never get it in any way shape or form.

sorry if my grammar makes it hard for you to somehow understand these simple things.

can you elaborate on how the game is “pay 2 win”?

Idon’t see any items on the cash shop that sells equipments or items that gives you an advantage except for vanity items

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pay 2 win, if you pay you gain an advantage. are you sure you don’t see any item that gives advantage in game? you don’t see any benefit in terms of power for paying users? i don’t understand how can you not see it.