Tree of Savior Forum

This new attribute token thing

General Discussion
#81

It does, but it’s fine. I understand not everyone here is from an English speaking country. I just have to reread a few times to get the general idea.

None of those are in our cash shop, so there’s no point in even talking about them.

All I can hear from you is ‘i don’t care about what you have to say, anything I don’t like is p2w, which is just about everything, except what’s in League of Legends because me and my high school friends love that game kappa’.

You still haven’t listed anything that’s in there, except the enchant scrolls.

No MMORPG has a cosmetic only TP shop. None. Even your beloved League of Legends isn’t cosmetic only. I know, I insulted League of Legends. How shocking ! The perfect game that you can find no flaw in! Let’s stop pretending like a cosmetic only MMORPG cash shop even exists, or that it needs to. Go whine on every single MMORPG forum if you think that’s the case. Go whine on the League of Legends forums as well, while you’re at it.

Really? But those convenience items! They don’t believe in cosmetic only! Surely you wouldn’t just be completely biased and incapable of looking at this objectively! Or did you forget that they have convenience items as well as cosmetic items? I mean, you have to complain about everything that isn’t cosmetic and call it p2w, so you might as well claim LoL p2w.

So, you have 3 choices:

  1. convenience items aren’t that big of a deal
  2. LoL is also a p2w game, as they also sell convenience items
  3. Be a biased hypocrite and just love LoL kappa kappa
#82

it’s too long so i will just agree with you if that makes you happy.

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#83

Lols… What the token benefits that allows you to get 30% more experience? And a Tome that grants you an additional 60% more?

First of all, all free-to-play and buy-to-play games have this. The Elder Scrolls Online, Star Wars The Old Republic, Rift, Wild Star and among other things. Sadly, if LoL and other Dota are the only games you have played, then I can’t blame you if you don’t know this things.

This is to expected on a free-to-play game. AS long as they don’t sell BiS gear in the equipment, then it is not a p2w game.

What you call a PAY2WIN items are CONVENIENT ITEMS that makes things easier. It doesn’t give you any gear that makes you on top right away. Look and play other f2p/b2p games and you’ll see that these are common and are not considered in any way a pay2win items.

#84

alright then if you think that’s not P2W.

#85

Try to play other MMOs man. It’s obvious you haven’t played any real f2p games. Sad!

#86

i’ve played a lot of MMO no less than 19 if you follow my comments throughout the forum.

i’m just tired of all the debate, the community of ToS is unhealthy. i’ve been angry in the forum, i’ve been debating, i’ve been telling people to stop the debates and i’m tired with all the crap this community endlessly throw at people. which is why i don’t want to argue all day with people anymore, i’m tired and i came to know that there’s no way you can convince people through internet because they don’t want to be convinced all they want is to argue and make people submit to their way of thinking which is extremely sad.

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#87

I have a question

If you watch a horror movie and halfway through, it cracks a single joke.
Is it now automatically a comedy and should be listed in the genre as such?

Or is it a horror movie that cracked a joke?

You dig really deep looking for P2W aspects in a F2P game, grasping at convenience items that don’t even make most of the game since everything is available in the game free, and hardly any different then those that pay

The game greatly rewards players who are free to play, hell grabbing enhanced accessories is far too easy for a free to play player that this is NOT a cash wall barrior, unless you’re desperate to grasp at straws. Which you are.

#88

i’m done with all the debate, please expect no more answer from me. i say this so that people don’t think i’m ignoring them i’m just tired with the endless debate. i hope you understand.

#89

Lols i also find it funny that people are considering Token benefits as part of pay 2 win.

Think of the Token like a subscription…

#90

Heh I have nothing to disagree with you with.