no the example would be, crybaby bought fried chicken for 50$, luckey baby got a free fried chicken next week that tasted better and for every day thereafter where as crybaby was barred from having fried chicken cause he already bought one last week unless he killed himself and reincarnated.
actually I donât feel like this has been a practice for a significant number of years. new account bonuses now a days are tied to referral programs where the person who refers you (someone whos been playing and supporting) gets pretty great rewards.
Level 50 is nothing. Make a new account
Iâm not âcomplaining about you complaining.â Iâm telling you that your complaining is childish and wonât garner you any sympathy or support here. The free stuff being offered to you is of comparable value price wise(actually a little higher in value, I think) to that of the Founderâs Pack you bought, but youâre here complaining they are only doubling your investment in the game for you rather than tripling it.
The stat reset has tremendous value because it doesnât expire in 24 hours, and we know the balancing is going to continue well after the event is finished. The cost to actually get a non-expiring Stat reset in game is something around $100 if I remember correctly. Thatâs a lot more valuable than some extra EXP, in my opinion at least.
As for hours and hours of grinding savedâŚif you are grinding for hours and hours, either you enjoy it (check, youâve lost nothing and gained hours of enjoyment) or youâre playing wrong. Iâm not going to hold that against you since youâd have no way of realistically knowing that at level 50, but the argument is no less invalid. And if those hours are still so precious to you, you can do what the rest of us have to do - pay for our nice things.
Your analogies all fail because you still got and get to keep your $50 worth of stuff, which the new players cannot get. And yes, they are getting free stuff now, but so are you. You are still complaining just because you donât feel you are getting enough free stuff - when you are still getting a lot more than the vast majority of us.
Newer players getting more EXP than you doesnât hurt you at all, and nothing is stopping you from just buying more tomes yourself. Your money is only wasted if you decide to waste it. Stop acting like youâve been conned just because some people who arenât as well off as you are getting a slightly better incentive to play than you.
See, his problem is he bought a founderâs pack, so he feels entitled to get the new player bonus but also keep the founderâs pack stuff he got that no new players can ever get, ever.
well letâs break it down, 900 TP is 81$. that means 11 TP per dollar meaning each TP is worth 9 cents. Each exp tome is 9 TP so thats 81 cents per tome, 4 tomes to make a 4x tome, and 2 4X to make an 8X means each 8X tome is worth $6.48
meaning just the tomes for new players valuates out to 110$ idk how to valuate the other items. how does one receive medals for the exchange shop? this system wasnât implemented when I played last. If you get 1 per TP spent then yes you have to spend 100$ to get the stat reset potion, but you also get 100$ worth of tp items meaning you could either value it at 0$ or 50$ if you wanna consider it half the cost of the 990 TP you spent.
It is about 1 TP per exchange medal iirc, but you only get the medals if you throw away the item you got from the cube. Basically, when you open the cube, you can trade the item you got from it back in for exchange medals. So if you cash in for 990 medals, youâve lost 990 TP worth of items.
ok so that gives me some more information, each dungeon reset voucher can then be valuated at $7.65 so thereâs another 23$ for a new player. can you valuate the fortune cookies and godess sculptures in any meaningful way? right now weâre at 133$ to roughly 147 factoring in my TP and stat reset potion. not sure how to value my hats and I donât feel like the 300k silver difference between the two pets is significant enough to bother with.
the only exclusives that founders got were two hats that look like newbie monsters and again, to reiterate they specifically said it âmightâ be available for sale again at a later date at their descretion so itâs not entirely exclusive.
Honestly if you look at the sentiment at the time people kinda felt like it wasnât really WORTH buying in the first place. I honestly thought the same but I was fine with it cause I wanted to support at the time so yeah I kinda feel slighted.
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A sculpture is about 2/3 the EXP boost of a tome for half the duration of a tome. So 3 sculptures is roughly equivalent in EXP to 1 EXP Tome, or 1/8th of an 8x.
1 Fortune cookie gives the same buff as 1 EXP tome, and once again lasts half the duration. So 35 Cookies is roughly 17.5 EXP tomes, or 2 8x Tomes and change.
The dolls âmightâ be available, but they havenât been. But go ahead, take those out of the equation entirely if you feel like it, they arenât of any particular value if you donât specifically want them, and you can always buy them from another player.
Thereâs also that 60 Day token you got, which at the time had a value of about 400~ TP.
Then add in the value of the 8x tomes youâd get from the Welcome Back box, and youâll have a good comparison of what you got versus what they are getting. If you are just trying to math out whether its worth it to start a new account, go ahead and ignore that Token, but really I feel like even comparing them is a fruitless exercise at this point. If you really want that extra EXP so badly, then go ahead and start a new account. If you donât want to lose the stuff you already have, then donât.
If you desperately want the EXP AND you canât bear to lose your stuff, then buy more tomes yourself.
I can understand that you feel slighted since you didnât really play the game, but really there is no point in being sore about it now. You got exactly what you paid for when you paid for it, and the new players are getting nothing that you canât get yourself (except for I guess some terrible accessories that most players wouldnât use even if they didnât have timers on them).
I mean sure I COULD shell out 100$ to get the exp tomes. But why do you think I have that money to just throw away? Cause I spent 50$ on a founders?
Also last beta that I played to 150ish it took a LOT of grinding to get past certain levels. I remember spending about 10 hours grinding 1 level at some point. so thinking about it with that in mind, that 10 hour grind would turn into 2 and change? and exp bonuses stack right? like the statue, cookie, and tomes?
Also take into account that you can receive the new player bonus on 4 characters, instead of just 1 like the returning bonus.
Holy crap the salt, what in the world
You pay for a founderâs pack because you want to SUPPORT the game.
Instead of embarrassing yourself by acting like an entitled â â â â . Use the energy youâre spending on arguing and level up instead.
Dude⌠if you have spent the time playing the game all this time, you wouldnt need the exp tomes of the catch up event⌠We old players who do play the game devotedly got greater benefit from just the reset rank event alone. The salt is stronk here because you didnt play enough and now you really want that exp boost so badly. My suggestion would be to transfer all those founder stuff to the new account, that way youâll get the benefits of the new event, while also still retain your bought stuffs.
The TP on your old account can be spent slowly to buy enchant scrolls each day (with the 5 free TP to maximize your income), and transferring it to your new account to sell for silver.
rofl this salty geekâs level of self entitlement is the real deal. just because you bought the founderâs pack a year ago doesnt make imc owe you anything salty. you knew what were the contents of the package plus arenât those packâs sole purpose was for early access? ., better quit bitchin and just leave if you dont want to comeback simple as that jeez⌠you left the game long ago and now you think u gettin back as if ToSâs time froze and you were the only one makin progress lolol
Jesus, if u feel scammed just quit and problem solved
Maybe if you were grinding level 1 mobs at level 150 this was the case, but the grind was never that bad even when the game was at its worst, and itâs certainly far easier to level now, especially with the newly added hunting grounds giving generally great XP rates for their level ranges. You could probably level pretty smoothly to max without any XP boosts at all now. Not to mention, a large majority of your XP will come from XP card rewards, which donât get boosted by anything. If youâre running around with an XP tome active all the time while questing youâre literally just wasting it. Youâll maybe hit one or two spots where it makes sense to stop questing for a while to grind. The only reason youâd even need 17 8x XP tomes is if you were planning on making 17 characters.
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They didnât forced you to spend $50. Thatâs your choice. Stop whining.
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If I were in your situation, Iâll considering this $50 as a support for the developers and stop nagging like some 13 years old.