So…why do I see so many posts where some community members gleefully say “cya” or “if you don’t like it, quit” to players that are expressing a personal frustration with the game?
Nobody should ever be happy when someone decides to move onto another game. Because for an mmo, that just means it’s one step closer to shutting down. There are disagreements on major issues, sure. But every person who leaves or quits is a loss for this game and community.
I urge the community to keep that in mind when discussing topics pertaining to the game.
the major players are in-game. these forums are a joke now that the game is out. the minor players are in the forums, complaining all, day, long. it all comes down to being cheap and/or lazy. most of the people can afford a token to do what they want, but they’re so cheap they would rather do everything for free.
But they need time to make it that way. Many of the community that is leaving isn’t even giving it enough time to do what it needs to do to fix or answer to the problems. Its a new mmo and, the way I see it plus being a vetern mmoer, IMC is bending over backwards to both get rid of bots and appease other players. Unfortunately, and probably because they are new/ don’t have enough staff at/for hosting a game, they have more on their plate than they can handle at a time so it will take longer for them to give what the players will want/ need.
Whether or not the majority of players are playing the game instead of going to the forums I can’t say for sure. However, calling people too cheap or lazy to buy tokens is not entirely true. One major reason why people are against the tokens is because they don’t want to support such a restricting trading system.
Those may be the circumstances but it doesn’t excuse community members from nasty remarks telling others to “quit if they don’t like things” or saying that other community members are “stupid” or “lazy” or “whiny/entitled”. None of those kinds of remarks help extend the life of this game.
Although I agree I feel its mainly others getting fed up with some of the behavior of others though. Even I’m getting burned out with some of the posters on here some of which seem to be unreasonable, headstrong, and overly critical about certain things. (Not the people who are giving out legit critiques and opinions like yourself but ones who are being a bit whiny or displaying childish behaviors though many of these posts seemed to have disappeared.)
Well, games are invented for fun. “Cheap and lazy” actually means people are having not enough fun to spend more time or money. And that’s not something bad about people, that’s about bad game design, actually.
Well this is just not correct. Those who don’t enjoy this game should leave since they aren’t going to pay anything which would help to keep the server up and running for me and their constant whining would just worsen the mood around them which makes the game less enjoyable. The main reason is the latter. Some people are never content with anything and most people don’t particularly enjoy their company. If it’s just some particular bug, they will come back anyways once it gets fixed so no point trying to beg them to stay.
F2P players are important for obvious reasons but F2P QQers who sticks around for who knows why aren’t.
And those players that keep paying and still keep QQing are the worst and it’s surprising that such people are actually rather common too, considering how absurd this combination is. I guess they just pay something just so that they can say they are paying customers. Customers who happen to have really long list of demands, which should be fulfilled now, or they will throw a tantrum, again.
So not everyone is equal for both, the other players or the company itself, and F2PQQ is the group no one wants to stay. It’s just that the company has to be really polite about it, but they won’t try to persuade them to stay too hard.
I personally think it’s this kind of mentality that helps kill the community. And once that’s shrunk too far? The game goes too. So please reconsider your approach.
You’d rather keep them here on forums crying about everything every single day instead of losing only a handful of players? You know, new players would more likely get interested in trying the game out if the community on forums is positive and are enthusiastic about the game and it seems like they have fun.
At least later on when the community has properly developed, we work as a huge extra advertisement signpost for the game company, whether we want it or not
At least I personally check every game’s forums when I’m wondering if it’s worth trying out. For example Wakfu turned into piece of trash after the open beta ended. I was wondering if they had finally fixed things up a year or two ago and all I needed to do was to check their forums and see that the game is still not worth playing.
People are playing the game - that means they found something interesting in it. If the game will meet more of their expectations, they will pay more money for that game. Or spend more time, creating ingame content for you (filling the market, participating in guild wars and PvP events, joining your parties, buying your stuff).
So, the more people are playing, the more fun you will get. The more money game developers will gain. Even f2p players, who spend no real money, will give more income to developers by creating the demand for tokens or whatever premium stuff will be there in the market. You will provide the supply for those f2p players, giving your money to the devs.
If you don’t like the complaints you don’t have to listen to them. They’re not directed at you… just don’t encourage a community culture where being happy about players leaving is okay.
it would be sad if only goodbye posts aren’t a dime a dozen and the person leaving isn’t exactly a pillar of the community, to say the least.
I replied in that thread, and I’d say it’s good riddance.
I’m not arguing that frustrations on the game shouldn’t be expressed, but as far the internet goes, there’s no guarantee that people who vent in the forums don’t or will never again play the game. and most people I know who actually play the game don’t post in the forums.
so basically IMC needs to care for its players sure, we need to be nice to our fellow players ofc, but the number of posts in the forums don’t accurately reflect the game population.
What’s a more accurate measure of game satisfaction then of the game population? I’ve been told by certain members that Steam reviews don’t count? So what actually does count?
Don’t twist other people’s opinions and words. You seem to jump into assumptions pretty often on your comments and there’s been quite a few fallacies here and there on your arguments on some previous posts and I’ve been really close to comment on them few times
That’s not what I meant or want, nor most others. It’s just those few who weren’t going to stay anyways and keep crying and demanding things without proper arguments and have troubles behaving themselves.
I’m sure most if not all are sad when someone leaves just because they are too impatient to wait things getting fixed or because of misunderstandings. But these who leave with banging doors just want attention and they either come back once they’ve cooled down or weren’t liking this game at all anyways. Neither of these groups deserve extra attention as it would just encourage this behaviour.
