Tree of Savior Forum

The game technically isn't out yet

I am just enjoying the game, thats all.
Love it. I am sorry for you that you can not experience that.

You dont have to go raging :joy:

NONE of those points lead to it not being a beta. It’s not rare the final Beta leads into the real game. It was stated for months to come that it was OBT.

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Are you seriously arguing 3 weeks till a full release to the public and another hundred thousand players that will try the free version that this is just a trial ?

In what why is it in any way an OBT ? There is not going to be major shakeups for skill tree or stat scaling, all locations are set in stone now as is the map.

So you think because u get to play it 3 weeks early then its fine for the game to be a steaming turd ?

No, I’m saying it’s still OBT even after it’s released to the public in three weeks time. We have literally paid for early access to the OBT. The period where they get all the kinks out before finalizing the product. They were expected to release OBT as completely free to play, but instead, they did early access.

Because we consider a full launch of an F2P game to be open beta.
LLOLOLOLOOLOLOLOLOOLOLOGLOGGLGOGIC!!!
Mind ■■■■■■■ blown.

Yes. The open launch of a free to play game is open beta. Your problem with that is…? I mean, it was even advertised as such.

BRO the build is 1.05 stfu is full release

They went out of thier way to remove any indication the game was not in a finished state on the steam store. Since the company decided this isnt a beta the game is NOT in beta. It IS however in a bug ridden early release state.
Edit: And by early release I mean we paid for early access to an unfinished game without proper servers that they decided to call ready for full release.
If they HAD said this was a early beta access on the steam page most people would not be so angry about the state of the game.

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No One forced you to pay.! Who you are blamed for… Of course there gonna be problems.

doesnt really matter what you call the phase this game is in… the fact remains true that they sold a product that is incredibly unfinished and doesnt even work half the time. its sad that this became industry standard during the last few years and people like you justifying it, just lets publishers know that they can keep pulling bullshit like that.

Despite what veteran players or those who have been following ToS for a long time know about what is considered beta/open beta, the actual Steam release does not have an exact clause about this as far as I’m aware (maybe I’m wrong? Someone can quote it and shut people up if this is the case).

On Steam it is actually not released (tagged) as an Early Access product, which according to Steam is actually an incomplete game and players should therefore consider that there are likely to be problems/changes to it.

On the Steam Store, EA stands for Exclusive Access not Early Access (even if it is to be considered Early Access).

This type of marketing/advertising is actually a problem for some people who haven’t been following the game for years and who wouldn’t know to expect that what is written on the store page is not exactly what is being sold to them.

It doesn’t really matter to me - I really like the game and publishers do tend to make a ton of mistakes. But that’s not a good reason to deny why some people may actually feel very misled. My irrelevant wish is just that they had thought about server capacity more carefully.

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The Open beta state of the game became an excuse for the developers.

There are many bugs, lags etc? no problem its still open BETA. It will last for months, so if you dont like the game at this point… leave it.
They rushed ToS to the NA/EU market not because its and awesome game and they couldnt w8 for us to see it/play it. They hoped you will love the game as it is so they can get your money.

I think you misspelled “they ran out of development money and released the game unfinished to get money to continue developing the game”.

Yes they did indeed sell a product that is incredibly unfinished. I was not arguing that point at all.

I was merely pointing out that in EVERY SINGLE early access the game is in a unfinished and unpolished state.

Is this a good business practice? NO.
Does it make the customers happy? NO.

The fact remains I see a lot of you people losing your S about an early access game where you should be expecting this sort of treatment. It hasn’t really been that bad considering.

I wish people would stop using “this is still beta/not released yet” as an excuse for the poor state that the game is in.

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just because i got treated poorly in one restaurant doesnt mean that justifies being treated poorly in another one :stuck_out_tongue:

i would still get mad in that situation since i paid for something that wasnt really delivered ^^

and i played many other mmorpgs in early access and it has rarely been this bad tbh… items disappearing from market, getting screen freezes pretty frequently (even in unpopulated areas), many disconnects, minor bugs, and right now most people cannot even connect.

i agree many people get a bit too mad about this and dont watch their tone in their complaints but i think there is reason to be disappointed at least :slight_smile:

its not BETA the game underwent a closed alpha and 2 closed beta tests which were tagged AS BETA TESTS this is the full release early access… the build is 1.05 ! this means its is a patched version of the finished product holy crap do people know nothing.

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The build could be ver. 563.798. The game is in beta until the game company says otherwise.

“…holy crap do people know nothing.” How long have you been in the video game industry?

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