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The Current State of PvP is Disgustingly Bad

Complete freedom of movement while locking someone up vs a stationary stun that effectively turns you into a martyr for the most part.

Mind you, the class with complete freedom of movement hits harder because of insane magic damage buffs, can heal themselves, resist most forms of CC, resist damage completely, and raise themselves. All situational of course, depending on what they rolled, but you catch my drift.

Iron Hook makes the user vulnerable to attack because the user need to be standing still also Bloodletting can counter Hook but not with Raise and u called Raise isnā€™t broken. nice logic OP :slight_smile:

When I see something as stupid as, ā€œthey were caught out of position,ā€ I can only come up with one conclusion; you donā€™t pvp.

Lol, First day of PvP for this week and your proud to be #1, hilarious.

Keep attacking my character and I will keep destroying your terrible logic. Works for me.

This kid thinks that PD/Diev does too much damage as a support, donā€™t even bother.

One is 10 seconds and the other is 19 seconds long. I would take a stationary stun in order to stun the enemy for 19 seconds rather than a 10 second stun where I can move around. Not to mention the 19 second stun is a ranged skill.

Kinoā€™s damage has been nerfed to the ground. Both itā€™s damage abilities have been cut in half, while one of the skills, Gravity pole lost one of its functions.

Like, with potsā€¦? Every class can do that.

What makes Kino more CC resistant?

Truly losing me here.

LOOOOOOOOL

One of the greatest troll posts Iā€™ve seen on this forums. Intro sounded legit, drew me in for the argument, as you listed your point you slowly transition from legit into full troll mode, I love it.

Go play some 5v5s scrub

A 15v15 moba style will be fun. With 3 standard path ways, friendly npcs and turrets. Pure PVE characters can hide behind friendly adds that spawn and buff them etc.

Or at least give more modes other than the basic spawn camping like

  • Wrestle control of a number of key locations on the map for a certain time period
  • Capture and retrieve the flag
  • Protect a moving npc while killing opposing teamā€™s moving npc

All these make gvg more fun than a standard starcraft1 looking map with nothing on it except to spawn camp the tower.

But then gvg now in ToS is in its infancy, better fix the skill freeze and fps drop first then improve on the gvg modes and finally balance of classes.

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only 5v5 is REAL PVP

Confirmed troll thread. What a baby.

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Mixed two classes (cleric/mage) by mistake. Iā€™m sleepy lol. Disregard that troll.

As far as Psychokino alone goes. Just the combo of gravity pole + raise alone is a game breaker for Swordies.

Clerics are a whole different story but thatā€™s bad for everyone lmao.

Absolutely. Everything at this point canā€™t really be improved properly without the fps fixes first.

When absolutely nobody can play without fps tanking to 2-5fps in 10v10 then thereā€™s not much point in anything else.

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I added portions from your first post to my original post! Thank you so much for the contribution !

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This was enough to have me stop reading.

Move on bud, and donā€™t forget, go play some 5v5s scrub

I donā€™t even know why people even discuss GvG at this point in time. The FPS situation is heartbreaking lol.

I miss WoE. :C

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Keep making terrible whiny threads begging for nerfs to every class but yours.

Go get good, scrub.

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Itā€™s hard to sometimes with people like Ramiri, but it is important to have good constructive discussions with each other.

Also, WoE is still my most favorite game mode Iā€™ve ever played in any game. I also miss it greatly.

Really? PVP is broken. Magic classes are OP and we all already knew this before we cried for the battle league to be implemented. No point in complaing about it.

Once the game is fully working without any bugs such as the almighty blank world map or the legendary party cut scene bug and above all, the abysmal game optimisation, only then let us complain about balance.

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Magic class op already past history after today if card working in TBL

Would you mind elaborating? I am not particularly familiar with the benefits and how itā€™s going to make magic classes obsolete.

welcome to stun and silence lock world // Tree of archer //

  • Casting buff is the strongest damage buff for no reason
  • Rank 7 class with stupid base damage like many other Rank 5+ classes that all should be nerfed

Community: Nope, lets complain about Kino and his only 2 reliable skills left from a 3 circles investmentā€¦

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