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Thanks for Nerfing Sorcerer/Necromancer

I think your the one who is talking BS?
And I don’t have to be so pro Sorc/Necro like you to tell me that I have no idea.

I also have necro and sorc for your info.

Its hardly noticeable that they die fast.

If so that you been playing it why you can’t just play it well?

Nerf is not suitable for Sorc/Necro
Still there are tons of bots/ macroers doing FINE
With the said class. :slight_smile:

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I’ve no idea what’s going on…
I made a necromancer recently and man they kind of rock. I run around with no armor and survive just fine in fields. I’m able to rank not 5 in bosses with a lv 170 weapon at lv 300. I spent so little and got so much that necromancer is great as far as I can tell.

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Sorcerer the class that nobody play ? Necro ? No one to point out this nonsense first sentence ?

I mean I can agree that they did nerf necro summon hp and it’s noticeable but as others said it’s not that bad… (Besides I did notice better archers and AI and it totally makes up for it with easier corpse management.)

What I don’t understand at all is that why sorcerer is included in this? Like literally I saw no negative effect on my sorcerer playstyle. At least personally I tend to re-summon before summon expires to reset skill cd and I haven’t seen my summon die even once yet.

yep, skeletons archer and normal skeletons attack now a way faster than before so imo necros get bigger buff than nerf -.- but w8 we must whine more!

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If you find something serious like a 330 World Boss, your Skeletons will be dead before you’re allowed to resummon them again, and with 10 corpse cost it ends up not being worth it to use the skill.

You’re fighting baby stuff like dungeon bosses, your Skeletons will die pretty fast but it’s possible to keep em alive long enough that you’re satisfied, but this class is pretty ■■■■. Sorcerer isn’t too bad even though it is nerfed and C2 and C3 were always pretty bad, but Necromancer is just horrible.

Regarding Sorcerer C2 being bad… you even ride? if no, you should and i think you’ll change your mind pretty quickly (assumed using attribute of course and having a decent card/weapon).

To be honest I wouldn’t world boss with a necro anyway.
It doesn’t need to, but, if you think it should, I’m sure you’ll find a way.

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C1 sorcerer is by far the worst circle of sorcerer… I mean I know c3 skills sucks but even so c1 without riding is just awful and only works with necro builds.
When was sorcerer nerfed tho?

How? Its very easy to replenish corpses and in the case of simply bossing you can use the items sold by necromancer master and they’re pretty cheap, not to mention you could stock up hundreds of corpses before facing a boss which should last for a while before even needing to use items.

I use necros to farm mats, hg, and even dungeons for silver. They are consistant, compare to other classes with long CD skill with 1 hit burst, I find necros very powerful and consistant playstyle wise.

3 mins is a long time, not to mention u just need to walk pass a mob for the summons to kill mobs for you.

Also, my summons barely die. However, I do wish there is a conman which allow u to direct which target your summon should focus on.

Necros and sorc nerfed ? If anything they are stronger than before. If you want a one trick pony that can do every single content you are out luck.

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I’ve seen naked Necro3s farming just fine in Jeromel, Kugheris, Tehvrin, and other high level maps. As what @fujiwari said, I think people should just stop wanting to make this class an all-in-one to the point that they can WB with it too.

Necro comes with non-summoning offensive skills too plus your lower rank picks, but if you took the pure summoning route (especially with full SPR investment) then you’re stuck with that playstyle and its limitations.

@jao_cj07

You’re welcome, we’ll see you again in a few months.

Pretty much the same cycle for almost every Nexon games :prince:

It makes sense why macro botters use necro in orange material maps if they die easily. Back when skeletons were hitting 1500 dmg … good old days.
AI has always been clunky , price to pay for cheap damage

@lladocspark
@c00lah

It really shows that you do not have necro or have experience with the class and no basis to compare with the other wizard classes.

I have all wizard classes and I say with absolute certainty the necromancer class really sucks compared to the other wizard classes. Necromancer is Rank 6 Class !!!
Sorcerer 2 is a thousand times better than Necro 3!
And that’s even after the IMC did the craziness of lowering the HP of Summoning.
And that compared to Sorcerer, if it is to talk about Thauma 3 … nor has any comparison, my Thauma 3 increases ~ 3k Matk or 1k Def if I switch to shield.
If it compares with my RuneCaster I bounce Boss in seconds.
If comparing with Elementalist 3, much better than Necro …
Compare Warlock 2 looks like a joke.
With Feather Foot, no chance …

Now Necromancer is still weak, what they should do for Necro to be good was to leave the skeletons without HP, they had to be immortal until time runs out, or greatly increase the HP and the defense so that they had a survival at least , like Sorcerer’s Summon.
Not in PVP, only in PVE.

And please, this topic is about Nerf in the Sorcerer and Necromancer classes, if you do not have experience with these classes, do not come back to what you’ve heard from a third party, like a pirate parrot.
Talk about your experiences or stay quiet and listen to the experience of those who play with the Classes.

Are there no topics discussing the classes you play? Or is it lacking in what to do that makes you come here to meddle in subjects you have no experience?

I say again that the title of the topic is saying that the Sorcerer and Necro were nerfed.
Since I am agreeing with the author of the topic, I do not know what you are saying that I am speaking against everyone or that everyone is saying the opposite of what I say.

From the outset I am agreeing with the author of the topic, and in all my posts I explained the reasons why I agree with him. For data and my experience.
I play a long time with Sorcerer and Necro, my first character to reach level 280, before there was Rank 8 it was my Necro and it was also him who got my 1st pract …
When I say that Necro was nerfed it’s because I know how he was and how he is now, and he’s already been worse, but he’s still below what should be to be a good class compared to Rank 6 or similar.

And this HP nerf was a big change for Bosses.

Although Sorcerer C1 is worst circle, but i found my Linker2Chrono3Sorc1 with little geared full SPR (+11 T0 Windia Rod with some HG170 SPR gear) a faster orange mats farmer than my average geared SR3.

This is interesting. Mind sharing what you used as summon?

I want to try make a chrono 3 too but without cyro

I’m using templeshooter, once you joint them, summon 2-3 hits will clear them.

Videogames have a design. The design is liked by some and hated by others. The others ask for changes in their favor. Developer then “rebalance” to make everyone happy, but some lost in the changes, so it’s the same. Now you just as a developer made a game that wasn’t planned that way to make people happy but it is worst than before.

A developer shouldn’t listen to people because people don’t ask for what is good but what they just want in their favor. When you have a character that doesn’t work in the way you want, you just make another one. But things that worked and people expend time on shouldn’t be nerfed so others are happy with that, it’s stupid.

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