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Team Dex Vs Team Str ( Trash talking, discussion, roasting each other, math magician war ) Aka Debate STR Vs DEX

I don’t have answer to question such as this…

All I know is the dragoon purposely not hitting in the video and let me dps myself, if ur watching what his doing, for the purpose of the video

Edit* he is hybrid of str dex and con for gvg purposes, is a catagoon and the char was made for gvg and gvg only

Why r u talking to urself

Where is your pillow baby? you said you want war.

Hi, i do grasp what you are trying to saying, but you should learn to start listening to other opinion as well.

reason why i asked for the amount of STR that dragoon has is because it plays important role on the screenshot you posted. you are linked via umbilical cord (lifeline) which share dominant ‘STAT’ of each player. you do understand this right?

lastly, i do believe you value your teammates that much for backing you up. the thing is, how you ‘speak up’ gives the impression that you treat them like nothing but servants.

Sorry I don’t get what’s your point when u asked. If u wanted the dragoon str u could have said it’s for life line so I can ask for ss. Not stating it later and filled in bunch of opinions.

Start listening to others

No lol, u kidding me. There is a line between people who knows how to play the game and ppl who obvious don’t and is a troll.

lastly, i do believe you value your teammates that much for backing you up. the thing is, how you ‘speak up’ gives the impression that you treat them like nothing but servants

What? Seriously? Thats your impression imho.
And even if they are my servant it’s none of ur business isnt it.

ahhh, it sure hot in here, nice thread

itos forum is definitely more enjoyable than the game itself
although that wrath guy clearly stated aki was being babied to achieve such dps which was others was saying from the beginning which drag on.

Post all your attributes % if you may. I don’t doubt your Doppel does decent damage at all, however I think your ego is starting to get in the way of providing useful information. Just ignore trolls and don’t partake in the needless flinging of accusations and provide numbers. If they aren’t correct, be open when people correct you, not get all defensive.

I would like to see how much you’ve invested into your Cyclone, Redel, Zucken etc. damage attributes. You haven’t shown those in any of your videos.

i ve seen thath Akis cyclone is 90+ attribute in some of his youtube vids …

i guess that answers it :sweat_smile:

… don’t follow aki as an example, for starters hes build was the old “meta” itos doppel, currently to get the most dps as a doppel 3, you should go high2-3 to maximum constant dmg, the topics is all out of the original purpose, don’t know how is the competition of his server in world bosses and i don’t really care but you must know that dex stomp str in every way, atm str is only useful for carrying more pots and extra gear, ratios in str:dex are out of question, its depends on your character, for starters pictures with buffed stats are out of question, second… all depends how is your party composition, doppel in kr are most op swordsman bar none in pve BUT HAS TO BE IN A PARTY or it will fall, second… don’t use your practanium to craft purple weapons, only do that if you have more to come, and that’s for all swordsman here, and one of the reason that i feel sorry for fencer since they would end needing 4 practanium(dagger of 2 slot and rapier)…(in ktos Q&A they did say the upcoming of a new rapier).
trans, new gems and revamped headgear totally trash str, for starters buffed headgears would give you 120+ p.atk.
the other reason that dex trash str is survavility and constant dmg, at r7 the dmg was way lower, now you get hit like 5 times and you’re done.
dmg wise the difference isn’t that great, examples here:
str:dex doppel, more str btw:


high dex:str doppel :

and high dex… but this should be your goal to aim and surpass dps wise, the guy in this video have a +21 or +21 magi trans stage 5, use leather set and do too much dmg to a ghost type (the worst for slasher since the -50% for being melee and the other -25% for being slash type) ;

all of those guy have cyclone 100 or near 100.
and since aki hasn’t explained how dov 15 really works…
the trick is pretty simple, the bonus aspd added to dov don’t need to stack 15 hits, just by having the skill at 15 you get the bonus, the thing is simple, use dov at lvl 15 without stacks, swaps weapons, spin2win and press the auto attack button and you have it, that the cyclone trick.
as for me, i’m just a humble doppel that don’t really have much:

using this crappy weapon atm:

and waiting for orange weapons:

as for skills:




well my doppel still isnt omp as i want him to be, but get the job done atm, trying to get my hands in the manahas set is one of my goals, still i cannot find an oracle that want to do the job, as for why i’m using greytis and demonas… the answer is simple, i used to be almost full str, still have my vritov plate top and bottom, but don’t need them, and i’m using shade for the extra eva, as guantlets and boots go(wish i could buy some virtov boots and dark shade gloves)… i want to spend the bare mininum on gear atm and stopped wasting money on attributes since saving for rerrolling saalus cubes and upgrading new weapon is my priority as for wich card i’m using… glass mole is the answer, hope i can give you some insights guys and gl.
PD: as for attributes goes, don’t level zucken and zhou the attributes of them… suck big time, only do that if you have a skill reset pot as me, the waste of money is big… but cyclone 15 and dov 15 are top priority, new doppel skill at max lvl outdmg zucken and zhou, redel is just another beast, what i find crappy… is that the combo crosscut+skylinear still have place in my rotation… is funny that r2-r3 skills are only second to my cyclone dmg wise(crosscut+sky and cartar).
PD2: someone named pallozo? give me a like the other day, sorry for not responding i was doing some stuff and didn’t have the time to answer.

You say - “Dont follow Aki as an example” , but aKi is way better geared and does way better DPS than you do …so i can say only one - for christ sake go out of here !

way better geared?, lol his hats are trash, i can buy virtov leather boots and gloves if i wanted to, but saving money come first, i have full plate virtov too, and if i wanted i could craft a gale slasher and get it to stage 4 without too much of a hassle but that again, crafting gale slasher its = to not orange weapon for me, i give you that he has cyclone in 90, but that’s the only real difference, and the most important thing of all is that i don’t go around telling people that i’m the best and post some pictures claiming to be number one, but was i stated that if they want to follow a doppel… they should follow the one in the last video, in wich he does like 3xtimes the dmg that aki does.

well Devil for sure beats up Aki in terms of DPS…but… HE IS PLAYING ON KOREA !!! Stop this bulcrap man… kTos and iTos are 2 different games… And on iTos Aki is the best doppel on his server ( or one of the best i think…or 1 of the strongest that put vids on youtube…) - that is the FACT …deal with it…
And about " If i wanted i’ve could blah blah blah…" - Stop trying to comfort yourselves…You’ll never be like Aki,or Devil or a month or a year from now
P.S. few posts ago Aki did explain why DoV 15 is a must for a doppel - clean your eyes man…

good guild/ permanent party will net you more money

dude plz stop…
you think that i’m poor or something?, plz…


that’s my lodge, those are part of my characters, i have pretty expensive stuff there, there’s something called team storage that solve the silver storage problem, don’t go talking ■■■■ if you don’t know nothing about it, i can craft me a gale slasher if i wanted, i do have the medium to do it, money if i need it too(have support “friends” not some dudes that are pretty much slaves), plus i wouldn’t want to be like aki not in the slightest, and yeah he explain why is a must, but then again he failed to explain why it didn’t need to gain STACKS for the aspd bonus, sigh… i shouldn’t have posted pics of my lodge or anything… i don’t need to prove ■■■■ to anyone, less to someone that follow aki as a lap dog, plus… putting aki at the same level as devil is really… not comparable, they don’t have the same stats, build or gear and for the last time, the last doppel, the one killing the 290 boss is by far the strongest doppel that i have ever seen in youtube, he is critting for 90k a ghost type, people should try to surpass fellows like that, not aki.

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Again - "If i wanted…blah blah blah…"
And man - he did say that DoV dont need to stack , that ASPD is the thing of DoV - OPEN YOUR EYES!
I didnt compare aki and Devil, because 1 of them is playing on kTos and other is playing on iTos , and that are two different games.Its you who campares them telling that - " You dont need to follow Aki, you need to follow Devil insted!’ … And that my friend is the truth !:wink:
P.S. picture of your lodge…serious dude?

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despite that i wanna be a month or a year is another goal of mine that i will never be able to accomplish since i’m a human… lol well my not soo bright aki follower,quoting aki in the same sentence with devil is kind of putting them in the same ground wich it isn’t true, still, i will not answer more of your post and excuse me for my childish attitude.
pd: still not seing aki explantion about dov… dunno if english is difficult for him but don’t care.

Пиздец ты сложный … тебе говорят, что вообще не сравнимы эти два игрока Аки и Девил, что они с разных “игр” по сути, т.к. кТос слишком отличается от иТоса … а ты опять заладил - “Если б я была колдуньей…”.Ещё и говоришь о том, что я типо “Ставлю на одну линию Аки и Девила…” ой уебашка ты уебашка!
Your so complicated … you are saying it is not comparable to these two players Aki and devil its just that they are playing different “games” in fact, since the kTos too different from iTos … and again you keep saying “If I wanted blah blah blah…”.Even talking about the fact that I supposedly “Put on one line Aki and Devil…”

Don’t waste time with germain1990. He is a fanboy of aki(maybe only one).
Anyway he lost everything when he said:“1 of them is playing on kTos and other is playing on iTos , and that are two different games”.

So aki plays iToS and devil plays Starwars nvm.

95%(almost 99%) aki says is bs.