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Team Dex Vs Team Str ( Trash talking, discussion, roasting each other, math magician war ) Aka Debate STR Vs DEX

Yup. free cleave. Still remember though since its’ a fake multihit it’s cap at 200k damage. (zucken)

well atleast I can bypass applying cleave when I use Zucken, Crown and Zornhau will already give me 2.0 modifier. thanks.

sorry one more thing. Zucken before wasn’t fake right? it was a true 5 hit skill. did it change when attribute was applied? or its still the same 5 hit (with the additional fake hits applying each of those 5)

Correct Zucken wasn’t fake before. It’s still 5 (with 5 fake multi-hits after upgrade) Basically what the upgrade does is add a 100% mod to change zucken in to x2 power still deals 5 hit.(shows out as fancy 10 ) instead.

Basically capping at 1million damage per zucken.

(theres still the issue you need proc shock). Else the damage will drop way too much.

Are bosses shock immune? So for a boss hunting build, it should look something like:

15 DoV
15 Cyclone (what’s the weapon swap quicken bug?)
6 Redel
6 Zucken
1 Zornhau, 1 on both new skills?

Was actually planning on maxing out Sturtzhau seeing there’s an overheat of 2 and that it ignores defense (if it wasn’t for getting Zucken to 6, but I dont know how the DPS compares between those 2 skills).

You will need zwer regardless its a free + 50% damage. Zucken is harder to cap than stuartzhau ( 4k attack power).

Stuartz cap easier as 2x 200k (2 true multihit 4 fake )

Zornhau and zucken combi choice is fine but if a boss is immune to shock then rip.

I think I’ll give maxing Sturtz a try over Zucken

as far as I know there is no monster in this game that are immune to shock at all

I only have maybe over 1000 hours played as highlander, but I’ve never seen a monster that is immune to it

I think it simply can be resisted, but very rarely

Resisted = high spr . There is a chance just saying. So it’s still a status factor.

Might be in future well either way i have not really roam around crowning mobs though

yes it doesnt add into cyclone dmg, u can notice that my demonas isnt with me all the time, i only use lolo now.

u dun need zornhau to get zucken dps

add-on: unless zornhau +100% to zucken dps, else it isnt worth it, now zucken only get boosted 50% from zornhau, and zornhau took quite a long cast time compare to cleave

the DPS of sturtz isnt great, but the range and cast time is better, pressing sturtz twice loses to zucken once if both attributes lvl are same, zucken being true multihit beats strurtz.

sturtz are better in uphill situation or pvp situation.

toxics replies and useless post, sigh.

toxic replies and useless post, but when it comes from ppl like u, i m not surprised.

yea sure, make videos with rlly good pt…well, ignorant ppl gonna stay ignorant

the video is up long time? welcome to click into my channel and watch my gear updates video in backwards since every1 of them has time and date of uploads.

afaik, i uses words the least, everything is recorded or screenshots, but too bad the community is too self minded and toxic everytime i post something such as eqp choices or dmg comparison or what doppel can achieve or some tips and tricks to abuse the class, they point at that person wants to show off, i stopped posting and just let my subs watch them for now.

Zucken is better even if shock debuff can’t be applied? BTW, are there any bosses that are shock immune?

the ones with high spr yes, but i have removed zornhau from my skill list so the new 330 wb i cant check yet, the old ones sometimes they resist e.g. mirtis.

S1-Pelt3-Rod1 with an intention to go Rod3/Murmilo here.
I was doing 2 Con 1 Dex til like Lv70. Now I am going 1 con 1 Dex.
According to this thread, Dex is good for this build, right?
I am at 145 Con and 115 Dex w/equipment. When do I stop adding Dex?

Dex is good regardless of what you are going.

Unless you are going squire ( which is basically a meat tanking class that does no purpose other than tank + shops).

with 145 Con (total, it’s more than enough even at higher tiers as you gain extra hp from plate + gems + gear). (my templar with pelt 2 at 120 con is having more than 33k hp at 240 @_@… on swash+ under gear plate.)

More optimal you can just keep on adding dex and instead of Con add strength now. Something like a 2:1 from now on

Optimal for non hoplite dex to hit will be around 300-350.

I am only at 23k hp at Lv154. Thought I needed more con to reach 30k. Haha.
Is 30k hp enough? I heard that the new zones hit really hard.
I’ll only add dex from now on. I want to reach that 300-350.
Thanks for the advice.