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Team Dex Vs Team Str ( Trash talking, discussion, roasting each other, math magician war ) Aka Debate STR Vs DEX

Ok buddy, now you can return to your popstar virtual life. :wink:

I remember u, ur the guy who mock me that I got carried by WL in 10F like months before just cause i shared 1 of the earliest vids…

well, i mean LMAO, look at the situation now.

Funny.

Still being carried. With a cleric slave you can run any build.

this is actually what i meant before, not everyone has the same comfort zone as he does. STAT reset is nowhere near to be found.

anyway. better not flood the thread with personal agenda. most visitor of this page now look for answers which path to go to, and not to read arguments unrelated to dex y str.

Haters…gonna hate :stuck_out_tongue:

Nah I don’t hate you. But seems you become salty when we spread some truths.

Well, are u gonna share anything great or not?

I don’t find you spreading ā€œtruthsā€ is helpful.

Sorry but i think the comfort zone guys isnt me…in my perspective it applies more towards ā€œmostā€ ppl that lurks here.

There is no free lunch in this world and I am not an exception.

My cleric slaves don’t falls down miraclely.

Ok Rugal, we are done here.
Lets make this thread useful.

Here, tips number 1.

Every DPS job is expensive, and Doppel is one of the most expensive among the expensives.

Don’t play the job unless u r well-funded aka having cleric slaves and friends, being solo isn’t going to get u anywhere, u either make friends or u attract ppl to follow u, and not just any friends or any passer by ppl, u need very strong friends that will see u as part of them.

I believe this is important for newbies or new comers trying to make the class as good as other meta classes, without proper knowledge on $$ its not going to work regardless what stats u add or what skills u go, just futile man.

BUT…

this class is rewarding once u exceed most ppl and hit the top, reason cause ur a swordsmen. They said DPS is easily-replaceble in a party, but for a well geared Doppel, its not replace-able in some of the DG and WB especially the new 330 WB and DG315, ppl are going to need u, like crazy, due to ur ability to hold aggro and being the best DPS in the same time. This job is not any well geared Warlock or Archers can replace easily. In the same time I also wanna throw in that Swords are immuned to Thauma flips and the burst from Swords are move-able unlike Poles or Magic Arrows.

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Which is why fencer is the king here O_o…

Fencer can cap damage regardless with minimal setup + Epee @_@…
If you are following swordsman overall dps…

Fencer > Dopple> allrounder dragoon.

Fencer still excel way too much in PVE…

As far as I know and have heard from other Doppels, the Demonas Gauntlets do NOT increase Cyclone’s damage. Sadly. Can you confirm or disprove? Apparently they don’t work with Cata’s Rush either. A bug. A bug that the developers have ignored for months now.

Idk why this no brainer said dopp are one of the most expensive job… ā€œfree 150% patkā€ on r8. High HP pool, high crit chance, provoke. (cmon STR sucks!) with +10 < RIGHT, +10 VTB and lv2 transcend dopp are able to deliver quite good damage because of that free 150% patk and 50% damage gained from crit. (dont forgot cleave + zwerchau, stackable gives you +100% slash damage)

+25% slash damage on PLATE armor? you should check the mobs armor type.
slash damage suffer -50% vs plate (demonas should gives you higher damage vs plate armor)

I know, but the item is bugged and doesn’t provide the bonus to Cyclone alone. It works with all the other Slash skills in the game. Oh well, not Rush. Intentional by the developers or a bug? Much like Linkers newfound damage. We don’t know.

Certain skill mods are weird.

Cyclone is one of them which scale to attack speed.

Normal hits works for the gloves. Just badly coded.

bug on the ā€œdemonasā€ itself or it still didnt gives the bonus when you used gauntlet of slashing? (well that content update hasnt reached my server)

known issue just not fixed with certain skills.

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noted, thanks for the info.

You should show your gear to the thread.

Your post makes it sound like you are highly catered, which is fine. Many players are. We would like to see a little deeper than just words. Make a video you showing your gear slots one by one.

Also impressive damage on the video. Thanks for sharing.