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Swordsmen need changes and now

Let me tell you a secret. That guy has a plague doctor friend who PvP with him all the time. Do you know why he’s top 2? Because of blood letting.

Let me show you a friend of mine who “theoyrcraft” to level 260 musketeer

See 1:43 and 2:51 in this clip where this musketeer deal 13k+ damage (1 shotting opponent, revive save them)

Do you know why grinding party don’t want DPS swordman? Because other DPS are better.

All party want tank, even DPS swordman want tank

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Lol im a dps swordman and i know the struggle to actually do something i need to be the party leader instead of being one that waiting for others

as the party leader most of the time
i really dont want others dps swordman which is really suck because that what i am :d

Ow. So your making stories now. Let me tell you the truth. Winning with friends not making you top on PVP. There is a points basis in that including healing party member. Search it somewhere too lazy too find.

Which is your fiend? The cannoneer or the enemy sniper? Cos the cannoneer have 11k HP and going to PVP. The suggested Life on PVP are 15k. Dont you know how much the HP of the Wizard on PVP? Nobody one shooted by sniper. Just a noob want to go to PVP.

Other DPS are better but it doesnt mean that DPS swordsman need a buff. Without investing a single points to CON. Swordsman on 280lvl class 7 are 16k+ HP adding the plate armor bonus. They can get 20k HP without investing to CON. Pure STR gives you guarantied 600+ STR without item stats. If you go Hoplite3 you get a buff that add 150 Flat crit rate + level 6 Green Gemsx3 you get 96 crit rate. Thats 246 Flat Crit rate already. Without Investing to Dex. You can get crit rate on item stats collection and buff of other class like Zalciai of Krivis.

The problem to the DPS Swordsman. They still investing to Con and try to go for Dex build. You guys don`t even know the max potential of swordsman and you already complaining.

“Friend of mine”??? More like “I see his video on youtube and now were friends”. Haha and you dont know the class of your friend. What a terrible friend. Its a cannoneer.

Yeah, right, because obviously full STR swordman will survive PvP and end game PvE. Hundreds of people didn’t think of that, such a revelation lol.

Hoplite c3 full STR godly DPS. That’s why people ask for pelt in earth tower and cataphract in PvP. Such power, much wow.

The ignorance is high in this one.

Did I said that the point of view is from my musketeer friend? I even pointed out the seconds you need to see lol

Everyone’s raging about DPS swordsman… meanwhile here i am as an Unbreakable Meatshield.

Why your thinking of survivability if your goal is to DPS, what kind of logic is that? This is why aliens don`t visit us. Doge reference are so old. This is the new one, Plizz dont Gay! haha. Well whatever. The ignorance is on you because your a close minded person.

(Let me show you a friend of mine who “theoyrcraft” to level 260 musketeer)
If you pointing out the enemy musket, how do you know that the musketeer level?. If you pointing the cannoneer, jokes on you. haha. Admit that you`re just making stories.

IMC please buff swordsman damage more so we can tank and deal damage at the same time. LOL. BALANCE DUDE! BALANCE!

Plate mastery is 50*34 hp which is 1700.
Though of course there is gear that geants hp too.

Melee damage for Swordsmen AND ESPECIALLY Cleric is waaaay too low.

You don’t really melee too much with cleric unless you are chaplain or monk, or even a pardoner that rushes to C2 and afk sell.

Even cure does a lot of damage, though ground restricted and single target.

Too bad like, more than half the enemies in this game are flying. To even get through the PVE in this game you have to waste a class rank on Krivis just to get Zaino.

I don’t know man, somehow I just see that mage and archer can do DPS and survive just fine, safely at range, what kind of logic is that?

Cuz he’s my friend?

Yeah IMC, why do you even buff swordman in KR, you are breaking the game balance. You should hire this guy, he knows the balance, more than IMC, more than hundreds or thousands of people who play swordman.

Clerics can heal themselves so the pain is lessen a bit, but still I feel you man, especially monk path.

Clerics can solo grind much better at 220+ than anyone else. Saw this cleric soloing storage back when I was grinding there. He was soloing the torch event basically.

Don’t think any other class can do that.

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Except in contra everyone use the same character. If you have a contra contest where you can only use basic gun and your opponent use 6-split gun then probably you would cry too

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Cut all bullsht… Jus delete swordsman

… Idk what 200+ content has to offer yet im playing sw3 Barb1 Corsair2 atm and im srsly struggling dealing decent dps with my auto attack build DWA buff is good and duration is decent at lvl 5 I plan to go corsair c3 for dwa to be always active but I just want to it to be reworked stamina cost should be removed since its not in the description its way out of context and is really misleading another is when buffed with DWA sub weapon attacks should be auto hell whats the skill for if u still gonna do it manually?

On topic
Atm I really my dps is sht even with upgraded gears pve is kinda so…so… parties only take me because of my jolly roger but still they ask for ppl with pelt 1 for swash buck
Pvp is worst getting near an enemy is kinda ez but once u get near u get hit by lots of cc’s well pain barrier does the trick to get near but once u near ofc free cast skills will just be spammed to the tile ur character is facing u can run over and get back at him again but that doesnt change the fact that u would stop infront of him rofl thats how ez it is to predict swords maybe if we have some gap closer with 2-3 overheat and 15-30 secs cooldown to make up for it things pvp would be a bit justified…

here a 260 catagoon, and can say our dps is very low, the tree has poor scaling buff (and all include an debuff to our def, evasion or dmg), poor damage reduction speciality, large sp cost for skills and the poor scaling dmg for skills, almost every skill of the archer tree has an % increasing damage plus the base damage in comparaison with our base dmg skills, the base dmg of the archer weapons and their bonus are OP in comparaison with our weapons, and if you dont pick peltasta in the 2 circle you dont get utility in late partys

in conclusion the swordman tree need an entirely rework for his role in the metagame

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