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Swordsman>pelt>hop 3> dop> dragoon - 1 on 1 pvp performance

As the topic says…

25% extra hp with SB
Can blockranged physical with C and extra passive block
15 finestra to hit without spending much on dex
Decent ranged attack with 0 cooldown to take down ranged characters
Long stride to close gap and kill ranged characters
Cyclone for AoE
Dragoon tooth and serpentine for high melee damage

This build has a lot of versatility… I dont know why people say hoplite3>dop>dragoon isnt good in pvp? May not be good in mass pvp but what about 1 on 1?

Even in a 1 on 1 there are much better builds for swordsman in PvP.

C passive blocks helps you only against physical classes and you can nothing do in the time you use it. I am unsure if this will help you much in a 1 vs 1.

25 % extra hp is not a heal so you have to use it before the 1 vs 1 and heal up in advance.

You have only 3 CC skills in this build with Bash, Umbo Blow and Mordschlag.
All have a bad animation time for pvp in my opinion.
Two of this are only knockdowns that push the enemy away from you and the other one is not even a reliable stun.

How do you expect to deal any damage with cyclone ?
You slow as a turtle and can’t hold the enemy in place.
Everybody can simply run away from you,

Spear Throw makes it really hard to hit moving targets.
Finestra and Long Stride are fine for PvP.
And Dragoon skills are good for PvP without question.

But there are much better choices then hop 3> dop in PvP.

Cataphract 3 gives you CC, movement speed and bonus life.
Corsair gives you rang CC with Iron Hook.
Swordsman 3 gives you longer Pain Barrier and Restrain.
Rodelero gives CC and magic immunity for some time.

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Pretty much sums up

but for me swordsman is more of a disruptor and frontline unit that needs HP and movespeed so CataC3 for me for Group PVP and single pvp

which skill is better for PVP CC? Bash or Steed Charge?

just get lvl 3 bash and why not lvl 1 steed charge for UTILITY purpose only

3 overheat of Bash is not enough for CC?
Is Steed charge easy to use in PVP?

lvl 3 bash for attribute knocback and steed charge bad AOE 3 overheat is good for knockback locking

Can you suggest the best endgame build in your mind for pvp with circles, skills and stats?

And how do you level up your character after 200 without peltasta’s provoke or block?

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I think the obviouse one is Swordsman 3 > Cataphract 3 > Dragoon.
Swordsman for restrain and pain barrier.
Carpract for move speed and cc/kidnap,
Dragoon for the damage.

Biggest downside on this build you have not peltasta for the pull.
That makes level after 200 awkward and hard to find a party.
You need some friends or guilden mates that help you.
Or you could go with a more Allrounder build.
Swordsman > Peltasta > Hoplite > Cataphract 3 > Dragoon
You have not the restrain but you have more easy time in PvE.

The other build that could be good after they buffed Rodlero is
Swordsman 3 > Rodelero 3 > Shinobi
Swordsman 3 > Rodelero 2 > Corsair > Shinobi
It is more a hard cc build with stealth from Shinobi.

Thanks.

But wont I be missing finestra 15 in these builds? Thats like free dex right?

Hoplite C3 is for PVE only builds, in PVP you will need CC and move speed, this apply for 1 on 1 as well.

For example, even barbarian C3 can stun lock and do better in PVP than Hoplite C3.

I like SwordC2>BarbC3>DoppleC2, Tons of dmg and cc

Dammage is great but wont you have a hard time reaching your ranged opponents without movement speed/ranged attacks?

Are you sure?A full Con Hoplite would be auto blocking a lot of skills with Finestra buff alone and i’m pretty sure they can kill with stabbing after spear lunge if they have restrain in their build especially because they have a natural high crit rate, and thats with a TON of HP.Restrain also slows you down, so you can’t run away from this for long.

In theory Swordman>Swordman>Hoplite>Hoplite>Hoplite> Doppel>Dragoon is probably the strongest swordie build out there right now.

CataC3 seems to be more valuable. OP is thinking of high concentrated damage and doesn’t think about CC at all. PvP is all about getting your CC’s on and dishing out the damage.

kkkk, ok have fun in PVP with that build.

Cata C3 is by far the most decent build for PVP, but don’t spend that many time thinking about PVP, IMC have a lot of balances to do, things will change a lot.

Do you really think dragoon is worth it over hop c2 for pvp?

@joaoalmeidarx

If you are planning Pelt C1 -> Hop C1 -> Cata C3 -> Hop C2, maybe. But I still prefer Dragoon in this scenario.

Well, i have a full PVE Hoplite now so i couldn’t test if Finestra block buff is working as intented(many skills in this game don’t do what they should), nor can i show the hypotetical power of this build because my build isn’t anything like it.

But i wanna propose a challenge, since you’re so sure of yourself, i’m certain you won’t cower in fear eh?ok.

Two friends of mine will start the game on SA once F2P comes out, i will personally give this build of mine to one of them, and then once he reaches a certain level, let’s put up a video of pvp between you and him, how about it?

Of course, if i happen to be right, i will mock the crap out of you on said video.But you should win, right?so let’s do this :slight_smile: