Wow… that’ll b very helpful mime…theory put into testing.
But how will you level it up after 200 without peltasta?
Btw, do finestra crits stack with doppel/dragon skills like cyclone, gae, serpentine etc? Or its only for auto attack?
One on one with what exactly ? You probably can win if its VS a pure PVE build (but its not that easy, barb doppel can stun, zucken, cyclone chain dps you, caught in that it is probably gg for example), while other PVP build can shut you down so hard that you will end up as one those guys in the forums crying about it right now.
The main problem of swordman in PVP isn’t because their damage is lacking, its because they lacked gap closer or CC of other classes.
Which is hard countered by certain cookie cutter anti physical classes. Long stride is so clunky that it is hard to aim with and isn’t really reliable, so it’s your hit or miss skill. But even if you connect long stride :
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Priest based class with stone skin, you think you can block ? They block more than you without having to press C (100% uptime with Chaplain), they have heals, may have druid subclass with their killer weed. You only have bash and dragonsoar as a knockback (oops blocked). Safety wall is a pain to handle, they usually invest in defensive stats such as con and spr + int. Probably tougher than you in most situations. Just don’t get me started with Dierb with their zoning capabilities.
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Wizard, the problem with wizard is they are superior to swordman in terms of stats distribution. They can just pump full con and still have enough damage to mow you down with more MHP compared to you. If they have at least C1 in Cyro, you will cry frozen tears. Kinos’s will CC capability is way above the charts.
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Archers, scout c1 camo with attribute, rank 7 skill, OHKO, nuff said. To elaborate more, avoid hunter class in one on one, it’s not one on one, believe me.
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Swordman, SW3 > Cata3 > Dragoon Vs you. The only base class you may stand a fighting chance. But wait, are they going to just infighting with you to slug it out ? Probably not, gonna try to kite you with CC such as impaler, stun rush rinse and repeat. Their mobility unparalleled, so it is you at the disadvantage.
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Agree with this. Basically Doppel is really good in PVE and suffers a bit in PVP due to lack of reliable protection and gap closer.
Maybe you could drop hoplite 3 and go corsair 1.
A lot of people already give the aswer of the problems you will face in PVP.
I don’t see a point of a duel between two swords, but you sure can make videos of PVP, 5x5 vs Wizards, Priests and Archers with this build and try to proof your point.
Good luck trying to catch someone
When they cc you from range and pew pew you to death
Build with Cataphract c3 is the best chance for pvp. But you can also create a shinobi build with good results:
Swordsman 3 > Hoplite 2 > Corsair > Shinobi
CC’s: Bash - Restrain (stun/slow) - Iron Hook.
Well said hahaha pretty much good luck on catching ■■■■ up
That’s the least of my worries when making a pvp build, BUT i’m starting to think one rank in Peltasta might be better than going Hoplite 3 because of the passive 25% extra block(i will be testing this passive, since i have it in my build).
Finestra critical buff works on any skill.
I’m sure it will be very easy to pew pew on that huge block rate, since everyone goes for SPR on pvp builds, right?and i’m not even bringing up the swordsman amazing hp pool…
My only worry with this build are wizards, they certanly can wreck this, but hey, every build has a counter, you just have to deal with it.
Ya i guess wizzards r the real issue… their attacks cant be blocked.
Regarding mr.mime’s build, if he goes hoplite 3, he will be having spear throw skills, gae bulg & long stride… easier to target using mouse… i dont think that build will be bad in pvp if played right…
Gae bulg - long stride (enemy falls down and a bit far but not too far)- rush to enemy and stun and then melee. If he goes peltasta, then he’ll have to rely on block rate. Also all the cataphract’s physical attacks except impale can be blocked by C and he can counter attack with dragoon 1 hit dps skills anytime he wants…
Can any 1 say whether C can block stun? And if it doesnt and the dragoon gets stunned, will C be dropped automatically?
Regarding wizzards, I’m not sure if this works or not but may be u can throw one - 2hand spear for gae bulg, and then equipshield n 1 hand spear and keep spamming spear throw at wizzard using mouse… u’ll need to carry 3-4 spears for that and u have to keep running in circles around the wizzard through out the fight… just an idea. Dont know if it’ll b practically possible…
i would liek to know if you can keep spamming spear throw if you keep swapping spears as well
I want to know that too…
SW3 > Cata3 > Dragoon is almost like the ancient knights-on-horses, coming in to skewer and they leave while you stand there anticipating their next attack (but you can’t since they are so much faster than you can blink)
Got to know recently… you cant. The spear must be picked up inorder to use spear throw again.
agree with this guy. if your going for pvp… sw3-cata3-dragoon is the cookie cutter with that.
Having only 1 build for pvp sucks given the variety of classes. We will just have to see in the future how IMC intends to balance this out. They could reduce the damage of archers like what they did in RO to make it harder to kite us. Basically takes no effort to kite swordsmen atm.