Hey, i’m currently :
SW C1 => High C1 and i’m planning to go : SW C1 => High C1 => Barb C3 => XX => XX
But i’m pretty lost, I don’t know anything about end class, how much they change the gameplay and what they are dealing with, weapon and more
I’d like to get info about Shinobi,Dragoon,Doppel since these classes seems to be good, but I don’t know if they are worth to get, or if they’ve got a nice dps
imo, you should go highlander c3 into barb c1 and end with doppel c2 (going into doppel c3 at rank 8)
stat wise i’d go dex, since highlander give you critical damage attribute, go very high on dex and add some con and buy critical attack gear.
Ok thanks but I’d like to know if this would work :
SW C1 => High C3 => Barb C1 => Doppel C1 => Shinobi C1 => Doppel C2 (Rank 8)
or
SW C1 => High C3 => Barb C1 => Doppel C2 => Doppel C3 (Rank 8)
or
SW C1 => High C1 => Barb C3 => Doppel C1 => Shinobi C1 => (Rank 8 Doppel C2)
Are these things all skills working with a Two handed ? Which one would you recommend ?
Agreed.
No way to go for Shinobi and Doppel.
If you like to play Shinobi you should go for Corsair.
High c1 can be used in a spear or even rapier build to some great effect (+100% dmg, I think… may be 50%, not sure what’s crossguard bonus exactly), but will require switching to 2H Sword actively (and that may mean lag for you, sadly). This will be VERY useful while bossing, and you’ll need bossing if you want to get attribs high in a shorter period. + Cartar Stroke is not that bad actually. Cheap to max and packs solid 3 hits of Strike, usable with any weapon.
So basically you CAN go corsair or even shinobi / fencer in this build.
You can also go classic full-PvE route of High c1 - Barb c3 - Doppel c2. A glass cannon with a strong slash AoE + Pouncing is very, very good, even in PvP.
So its mostly about your preferred weapon.
You know what’s gonna do the most brutal damage once c8 is out? Sw1-High1-Hop2-Cor2-Drag2. Crossguard + Lunge + Serpentine Attrib at c8 => Hexen Dropper, Dragontooth => gg wp
if you really want shinobi, dont combine it with doppel,
generally as i said before i’d go highlander c3 barb c1 doppel c3
doppel is better with corsair anyway.
i’m doing high3>barb1>doppel2 going CON 50-100 and STR, no dex. see, unles u are a fencer, just go high STR, dex builds are bad at later levels and STR just got a buff of 30%
u could do high1>barb3>doppel2, this one would be better at pvp.
i prefer highlander cus i like the skills and the c3 costume
all these are for 2h swords, u can go fencer too, shinobi or corsair would need highlander>hoplite
this is stupid since highlander get a 50% critical attack buff,
don’tl isten to this guy, high dex is the way to go especially with highlander’s high critical attack buff.
plz dont ever go highlander hoplite, thats also bad.
you get access to tons of critical attack through items, and with highlander’s 50% critical attack attribute, dex is really the best way to go.
besides if you go high str and NO DEX at all you will have no chance at pvp, at all, having 0 dex will suuck at pvp because you WILL miss 90% of the time.
highlander get a lot of usefull skills for any dps. all ur crit rate u will get from gear a gems later on (u can get 250+ crit rate with gear) and evasion is useless unless u are fencer. and with good gloves u can do pvp with no dex, there are ppl that do it.
doppel is the best dps in swordsman tree, cosair isnt good for dps right now and shinobi have the same problem.
dex builds used to be good, in beta when max lvl was 200, now they fall of really fast when u get to higher levels, unless u are a fencer
and if u want to pvp a lot, go sword3>cataprhat3>cosair>lancer (when rank 8 arrives), right now thats the only real pvp build in swordsman, but it sck in pve.
remember str scale very better than dex and swordman class win 30% bonus dmg from str AND now, str give block penetration
cross guard and crown and bleed damage from crosscut also scales with STR
and later on deeds of valor too
if you want to pvp at all, no dex you’ll suuck as a swordsman you’ll miss 90% of the time
in pve, you might be right though
still, highlander gets a high crit attack bonus.
going ONLY str or ONLY dex both suuck, i believe you need to have both
a good mixture is the best.
Have fun when you’re getting murdered at higher levels since your precious dex won’t give you anything but crit rate and accuracy which you can easily obtain socketing gems in your gear. Dex won’t give you any damage and highlander relys on str for bleeding and cross guard since both of those skills scale with how much str you have. Plus imc has been buffing and reworking skills for swordsman to scale with str that’s why it’s their main stat lol, you don’t get any extra points from dumping into dex it’s not bad to invest some in if you want a little bit more accuracy but it shouldn’t be your main stat. Swordys just don’t benifit from it well enough to totally invest in it.
you can add str as much as you want
you cannot be the best pvp out there, and not be able to beat an archer because he got too much dex 
thats just how it is
critical damage is also easy to obtain, very easy.
if you want to pvp, adding str will not help you and thats a fact, there is a reason most korean builds go for dex.
i personally am doing a mix of str and dex, because yes, i dont believe that going only str with no dex is good
just like going only dex with no str
just doesn’t work with solo play.
perrsonally im going for 200 str 130 con and 150 dex, for me this is a great stat balance for pvp.
gear wise im going hybrid, since my stats are hybrid gear should be hybrid too.
i believe that a good balance is the best
i just wish leather mastery gave us accuracy, would be great.
you don’t know how critical attack works don’t you? sighs
it’s literally one of the most useless stats. dex is only useful if you want to pvp.
This is the answer you’re looking for. For stats, go high str a little bit of dex and some con if you’re going shinobi 100 base dex should be enough for you’re bunshins hp
Follow this and you’ll end up rerolling why?
Critical attack is sh!t elemental atk or even physical attack bonuses are better…
Why? Erm search for the dmg formula and you’ll see why…
Also if you go high dex, end game you’ll end up hitting like a fly why?
Because each time you advance ranks you gain a bonus of 10% str of your base str so if you have 150 str you get 15 str once you advance to you’re next rank.
That’s just 15 str why is it such a big deal? our str scaling just got tweaked 1str = 1.3 phy atk
Concentrate just got tweaked in kTOS it now scales with str and dex with str having the higher multiplier than dex.
Buffs like DoV only works with you’re base atk so having more str = more phy atk = more benefits from DoV.
PVP, you miss alot? Upgrade you’re gloves still can’t hit that archer? Ask you’re team mate may it be wiz/cleric or archer class to take the guy out, did you take corsair class? In that case get iron hook chain latch the hook to the guy and ask you’re team mates to kill the people you caught, did you go shinobi? Use you’re stealth go from behind if you can’t hit you’re target then same plan hook and tell you’re mates to kill the people you caught. Err sorry i dont have suggestions on other classes as im sw2hop2cor2shinobi and i dont know how other sword classes work in pvp
Hmm what else miss? … Oh and if you’ll build high dex and just pray for crits think again at higher levels you’ll be facing lots of enemies with plate armors which imo has high crit resists not really sure but for someone like me who has 347 crit rate it doesnt seem to crit like the way it does on cloth and leather types.
I still honestly recommend getting very low dex in PvE spearman builds. Like 0-15 invested. For sissels bonus, it’s crazy speed and +235 atk (!) (it even works in PvP, I can confirm it with my youtube vids, havent rerolled my stats yet).
Aye i only suggest the 100 dex if taking shinobi so bunshins can take some hits they’re quite hard to control especially at lvl 5 they usually scatter most of the time,well ionno… maybe i just suck at using bunshin please forgive my noobzkills rofl
my full str hoplite NEVER missed in pve, not even once.
you don’t buy sissels for that stupid buffs, you but it for the critical rate (Which work wonder with full str builds, my full str fletcher deal a TON of damage)
when you want min-max damage, some classes are better with full str (hoplite, quarrel shooter, etc) and some classes are better with high dex, highlander is a good example of that because of the 50% critical attack bonus. you dont HAVE to go dex, its just better on that particular build.
that’s not very true, in pvp, against full evasions even a superior bandit glove with green gems wont help, against those types you’ll need to build SOME dex in order to deal damage
don’t expect to make up for accuracy, accuracy is not llike crit rate, some builds can get up to more than 1k evasion, don’t expect to hit that without building dex
highlander doppel is not that good at pvp anyway, so he wont have that problem.