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[Swordsman] Full DEX is still the best build for everything?

Full STR touch nothing much in PVP. It at least has to be DEX+100

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I think you are just blowing it out of proportion, a good STR/DEX spread like 3:1 and a pair of up to date Gloves should hoenstly do it.

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Oh for sure, full STR is by no means a good idea and only under a specific circumstance is it okay for swordies (hoplite C3), and only then for PvE.

PvP is a different ball game.

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Considering most magic monsters basic homing magic attacks were considered Missile, in iCBT, and could be blocked/evaded. <_< Unless they fixed it, evasion is still useful.

for high level archer/wizard monsters, it is 100% hitted regardless you have best evasion. even the high level physical attack monsters, with the best evasion you could just dodge like 50%.

swordman will kill hard when monsters level is higher. while you can still see cleric/wizard/archer do it softly.

Actually missile attacks do miss just as normal attacks.
At least they definitely should miss as any physical attack.

The reason they might hit 100% times might be the enemies ACC>your EVA. Maybe w/o any eva buffs from skills it is possible for full DEX against very rare mobs, but I think missile attacks having 100% hit is nothing but a bug, or you might have magic attack for a missile.

Full DEX + 50-60 CON with proper gear and buff will make monsters with physical attack pretty easy target and also would be effective enough vs ranged monsters as well.

And finally, maybe not full DEX build, but heavy DEX based is pretty great as a party tank, since you need less CON (only to sustain magic damage) then in STR based build cuz of evasion and block working pretty well together.

To summarise my opinion I would say that full DEX is not bad, but not good enough (it is good only for swordsmen duels) while DEX as stat is as great and useful as any other stat. And I pretty much love the system they implemented for its diversity and teamplay focusing (cleric and mages buffs may make swordsmen or archer up to several times stronger).

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true…for me the stats in this game are wrong as hell…crap spr is useless =/

“Crap” SPR is not useless at all. It is great for lots of Priest builds and quite good for anyone who wants spammy build. CON is essential for every class. STR and INT are useless by your logic, since STR is useless for mages and INT is useless for warriors. Finally, DEX benefits your physical effective HP and DPS so again it is somewhat useful for everyone.

Actually, the only class who benefits from absolutely any stat is Cleric, since it’s basic attacks deal physical damage and it’s spells mostly scale from INT and SPR.

But it’s easy to make a SPR-DEX based archer who will spam all it’s no CD skills like crazy. But truly, SPR is mainly used by priests, so you can say it’s nearly useless for other classes.

Spr not useless for full support cleric or any other char( has chance to resist).

It’s not useless, but ppl prefer kikoo high dmg most of the time …

And, one more time, full dex is only usefull on low lvl early map. If the map is 200+, and got some stars … Forget it.

(Saying it like that coz swordman full dex is probably a solo build, with a party, you can go on a 200+ / 3 star map easily, but you’re still gonna be nearly useless with your swordman full dex, if you don’t think a lot about your build)

What about full CON swordman? Is it good for high level PVE and GVG?

One more time, depend of your build :stuck_out_tongue:

Full con is mainly for a tank, usually … So if you think a little bit about this … It’s probably gonna work ^^
(But well, wiz full CON work fine … For pvp, it’s not a bad idea, but you’re probably gonna need some cc, as a swordman)

The main problem about full CON, is … It’s gonna be a pain in the a** to kill the quest boss, if you usually play solo …

Just remember that “high lvl” still doesn’t exist (lvl 280 actually vs lvl 400/500 max, probably)

It’s like Earth tower, when ppl discovered that … You need to build as a party a little bit ^^

As long as you got friends, and think a little bit about all chars, it’s, at least, gonna be fun °°

I plan to build a peltas>hop>Cataphract C3 with Impaler for PVP and some knockdown skills, also with super speed mobility :sunglasses:

yeah 280 isn’t really the end game but at least maybe full CON build will scale well on later level caps

oh, my rank 7 will be Templar so I’ll be a guild leader :slightly_smiling:

Full CON is good for Peltasta c3 focused solely on tanking. For your build STR CON or maybe STR CON DEX will be great. Also Templar is not the best choice for PvP, you will completely lose to Dragoons in terms of damage.

Full CON scales pretty well in late game, but not great. STR scales much better, especially after you get 500+ STR, every additional point of STR will basically count as 4. That’s why stat buffs are so good. And Templar is actually pretty good for GvG, since it grants 100 damage to every STR user nearby.

my main focus of pvp is gvg and I already have some friends to play so I choose Templar

I think Templar should be a tanky character and also have a good mobility to coordinate the battlefield so I choose cata c3 and full con

for 90% of templar builds are tanker+craft path :smiley: the 10% of templar are just mixed/hybrid tank-DPS build.

for example one of the popular build:
swordman => peltesta => peltesta => peltesta => squire => squire => templar

how big is the GVG map? is it huge?

GvG is everywhere at the world maps. once your templar declared a war to a guild, if you meet the players at the world map, you can straight away versus them. that is called GvG for now.

this image shown, my templar had declared war with Empire, Teta_de_Nega and korean guild “HiDeuLa”