From what I know, full dex was always the best build in the late game … It is still like that?
Early game, pretty much.
Later magic becomes a thing, and then more of a thing, and then. Oh. Hey! off-screen magic missiles!
It actually always depended on skills and class choices and its still like that.
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That’s still bad imo because that’s still just mainly CON-DEX builds…XD
from krToS which I am playing, swordman class has good evasion with full DEX at monsters below lv200, which legit to make the quote at iCBT2: best class to play. however, monsters lv200 and above have thick hp (100k to 200k) and mostly archer type and mage type. then, this is a point where I want to highlight. swordman becomes worst attack class among the 4. evasion at this levels do not guarantee you 80% to 100% dodge. you will probably see 30% to 50% dodge from a monster. well, now swordman becomes worst class among all after lv280 released.
Full DEX wasn’t always the best build. It’s just what a lot of people did. If you want to dodge a lot and do way less damage than you could be doing by having STR, then sure go full DEX. It doesn’t take that much STR to do more damage with non-crit attacks than you would do with a full DEX build’s crit attacks.
krToS needs to buff swordman, either skills cd reduced or stun abilities get longer from 2s to 5s or potentially does 3x/4x damage randomly.
Apparently no. Sure you might crit a lot with high evasion but the major downside is that you won’t do much damage (even with critical proc) and will take a truck ton of damage if the mob were able to scrape you even just once, especially those magical bastards.
evasion not valid to mage mobs and archer mobs
and 70% of monster with lv200 and above are mage and archer type… even the physical attack type mobs, 30%-50% having the chance to dodge with full DEX equipped. this really make swordman class look very bad, except to have high attack to kill lv200 and above mobs to prevent being attacked.
swordman is really sore playing in current moment after lv200. just hope that feb 18, we have swordman class buff and get it right!
just imagine this one that i purposely recorded:
i have STR around 150, DEX around 360. 2 gladiator band, max petamion, +10 maga 1 hand sword, +5 karacha dagger.
build: swordman c2, barbarian c2, corsair c2, shinobi c1.
As I read somewhere, do not forget the 10% bonus received for each rank for FOR/INT… it may change things a lot after rank 5 or 6, especially in late game.
It does, it really does. At Rank6 it’s a 50% multiplier on top of the extra stats you et after puting a certain ammount of stats on a stat (but not stats from buffs and equipment).
So as I said, at early game DEX is supreme, but then with the changes to mobs and the higuer % bonus STR will be your real damage source as a physical class.
I don’t like the stat system too much in tos because at the begining it “suggests” you to put on more than 1 stat…but if you look at the stat bonuses I’m not sure you will be good if you put on more than 2 stats at the end. On the other hand in the arena with the standardised equips and stats I guess you will be always better if you won’t have just 1 stat.
I’m kinda in the dark with my stat build… I think it would be good to have some DEX but then I’m not sure I should put points on CON too… I think I will go with the flow and if it’s rly that horrible I’l try to fix it on later levels or at worst I reset…XD
Depedning on your class you pick a number of point into CON (30 for Archer/Wizard at a minimum, 40-50 for Cleric for the heals and durability and honestly I’m not 100% sure on Swordsman), generally if you are physical you want an spread between STR and DEX to be sure you hit and a few crits are never bad.
INT runs on it’s own.
Honestly, SPR is the worst stat in the game because the SP it ives is so nothing and it doesn’t affect the bonus per level.
I actually plan a full SPR Chaplain so I can laugh at those high dex characters who will miss on me…but maybe block won’t be that good and I’ll suck so we will see… 
Wait, what?
No for real, am I mising something?
Oh, Stone Skin?
The thing without 100% upkeep unless Chapela?
Eh Chaplain can do it I guess, call the Wizards.
Yes that is the plan…and yeah wizards will kill me easily if I won’t put on CON but I’m rly not sure I want to sacrifice any SPR XD I will just run away from wizards haha… (what won’t work but nvm)
As I said, Clerics want 40-50 CON, you have MAss Heal which scales GREAT with you HP, so all the more reason to.
Full DEX was easy in iCBT2, and against full STR, although you may have done more damage with enough crit chance modifiers via gear, it was still not worth due to survivability, DEX offered evasion.
Now, sacrificing all that damage for evasion is no longer worth due to the monsters past 200, especially in 3 star maps.
Your best bet is get as much STR as possible, and focus on crit chance modifiers via hats/gear. If your a hoplite C3, you probably don’t need any DEX at all, as they can crit often enough past 200 still with just finestra and gear.
I wouldn’t do full STR either, although it’s a much better choice than full DEX, I’d do a mix of STR/CON for PvE tbh, and focus on party play, as a swordsman currently isn’t all that great alone past 200.
We’ll have to see if they do any major changes for swordsman soon though.
Here is an example of a full STR hoplite c3 on 3 star maps:
Do note that there are much more difficult mobs in terms of HP, these are fairly week.
Bonus, some more testing:
And with Dragoon + Lunge:
I will think about it. 
