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Swordie dps will back to # no 1 after rank 8 😊

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#21

Okay, what about a Monk->Inquisitor with all of the kToS buffs to Monk DPS, with a Rodelero3Dragoon2 and Chronolinker giving +300% Strike damage and +100% physical damage with slithering/high kick/lethargy/serpentine?

Or a Krivis/Daoshi with a CryoLinkerChronoSage giving +50% lightning damage on linked enemies, +50% lightning damage on frozen enemies, and the Daoshi lightning damage buff with Sage buffing Zaibas/thunderstorm and duplicating Daoshi’s DPS amulets?

In theory anyone can look like they do enormous DPS with tons of multipliers stacked up, but we won’t know until we actually see their numbers in practice.

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#22

Imo, they made melee (also single target) classes more viable. If you check the combos, everyone can deal with heavy aoe situations now. Doesnt matter who will top boss dps, that is hard to balance, but at heavy aoe situations (like earth Tower), maybe we’re going to see monks, fencers and stuff dealing decent dmg.

Just saying, dont take gifs numbers in consideration. We dont know how strong 280+ mobs are going to be (neither the gear and skill ups the char used to showcase skills have). Just remember necromancer meteor dealt 800 dmg. Ofc it wont be that weak.

#23

ROFL dream on

I have two swordies max 280 one fencer dps one dragoon hop3 with bis

and you know what my Sr2 ,fletch3 ,wugu output more than them plus the dmg from archer is reliable meaning the downtime of spell is less

Swordies will repair equipment more often than either archer or wizards
one of the sole reason i stop playing

i love swordies and its super fun to play with controllers but this class seriously needs rework

if you play dark knight or warrior class from ffxiv those feels so powerful compare to tos swordies lol
both can tank can output omfg amount of dmgs(still blm ftw :P)

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#24

Let me guess, both your “dps swordsman” have “peltasta must have swash party grinding”?

#25

fencer dont ,dragoon have

it doesnt matter, you are a melee class you trade blows Equip=Breaks faster
about dmg you can pm me ur id we can do mission sial two man
if you can outperform my dmg you can have a token

swordies need rework , thats why imc is saying they will bring a set of equipments only usable by swordies

#26

Why does that matter when considering DPS? Rank 2 Swordsman only has a choice between Highlander which is utter dogshit and Swords2 which is only useful for Restrain, they don’t have something like Quick Cast that gives them a real sacrifice in order to get Swashbuckling. The opportunity cost associated with Peltasta is nonexistent.

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#27

have u invest in swordie attribute , invest in weapon enhance, do all proper spell b4 go in lvl 240 dungeon, u need to invest to be a dps, the way i saw u talk i guess u dont invest on ur swordie even in attribute. Have ur spear lunge is set lvl 10, or just lvl 1, u need to more uinderstand the skill , and invest more in str,
to test it out dude.

#28

Haha. I can see why your dps suck. Swordsman 2 giving better pain barrier for a better uptime using cyclone and stuff, and no, Highlander 1 is not utter dogshit, you are trading 50% (see, %) critical damage using 2h swords for swashbuckling.

Didnt even took in consideration concentrate scaling with str/dex and most of rank 8 skill being multihit.

All I can see are peltasta must have party bitches dealing low damage because did trade a dps rank for a tank rank and are now sucking at both Jobs.

#29

You mean this crit attack?

[[(ATK + ATKSKILL + AMP) × T0 − ((DEF − DEFDEBUFF) × LVPENALTY + RESELEM)] × CRIT + CRITATK + ATKELEM + ATKTYPE] × T1 × T2 × T3 × ENHANCE + BONUS

Something added after raw damage get multiplied by 1.5 (crit). That must be “huge” I guess

#30

Yeah, because Guardian and swashbuckling will increase your damage by huge anounts. Oh, it wont change anything.

#31

I must admit, your logic is unfathomable. Not only you did not answer my question, you also used an unrelated subject to evade and attack my points.

Shameful

#32

I was comparing Highlander to peltasta, you quote a little part of my text and want to question my logics? And you even talk about “unrelated subject”. Rofl.

#33

I was quoting the 50% crit damage. Did I write a single word about Highlander and Peltasta? No

#34

Potato then, you are changing the subject. I’m saying 99% of swordsman dps suck because they are trading a dps rank for a tank rank, doesnt matter if critical attack boost is not near Quick cast attribute (for example), but its there to raise your damage. Peltasta will just give you literally NO boost to your damage.

Yes, you’re right, I said critical dmg instead of critical attack, sorry. Anyways its something.

#35

ROFFFFFFLLLLLLL from the post thread itself i knwo ur a troll who just joined 2hr ago and you just confirmed it

LVL 240??? lmaooooo before you even know what dragoon is i have been toying with it since ages

spear lunge lvl 10 ?? can i smoke what you smoke
fyi full str with max crit gems sissels glads etc dont tell me about attribute lvl cause you wont ever reach my lvl

and since your are triggering me with your noobies crappy talk
lets just go mission i dont do blah blah theories, im practical

can i add u 2 hr account boy?

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#36

After the Big Update, Barb was buffed over the roof, don’t you remember? Now the meta for DPS Swordie is Sw1>X>Barb3>Doppel2.

3 charges of Cleave will provide a lot of Slash bonus damage for Cyclone, Redel and Zucken. Not to mention rank 8 promises from IMC.

Unless 0 cd Skyliner is actually a thing, a rank 4 Swordman class won’t out-dps a rank 6. Nope. And 50% crit damage is not a huge amount either. Do you have Finestra on? I think not

#37

swordies are not that weak but they just cant outdmg archer wizelemes

end of story

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#38

Let’s rephrase that:

Swordsman can pull/swash mobs. Cleric will do the DPS.

/wristthanksimc

#39

Critical rate is easy to get by gems and equips. You can go full str and have almost 1k critical attack with Highlander attribute. Doppel 2 is in a good spot now (not near elememe ofc, because the melee factor). Just pray that doppel 3 new slash booster is a buff for its user, not a debuff on mobs.

#40

Swordies can’t go “back” to #1…they’ve never been #1.