Fencer and Shinobi damage will multiplied by 4 in dual dragoon 2 buff 
If get a chrono 3 it is 8 times multiplied.
As long as flecther and wizard cant exceed swordie dps 8 time in dungeon,
rank 8 is good game.
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Have u seen the rest of rank 8s ?
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Seen but no excellent multiplying buff 
archer seems add more aoe skill
The important thing is , swordie fencer C3, dopple C3 and dragoon C2 is waiting in rank 8, while archer , flecther 3 is limited in rank 7, no fletcher C4 is gonna happened. Same as musketeer limited in 220 lvl grandcross weapon, but swordie can change to lvl270 lolipanther weapon.
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In boss killing, if flecther skill damage no upgrade but other swordie upgrade C3 , damage will be chased up and dragoon 2 dual physical damage + 100% buff, world boss not sure about it but normal dungeon, if dragoon 2 and other dps swordie in same dungeon map for killing boss,
unless fletcher and wiz have minimum more than 5 times dps leading swordie,
in short term dps competition ( 7-8sec to kill boss ), swordie will always get no1 . In same equipment and lvl, swordie combo ( dragoon + dps swordie ) in rank 8 will always get no1 in normal dungeon , good bye wizard and archer.
And how do you fit fencer c3 + doppel c3 + dragoon c2 in 1 character again?
If it is 3 characters, Iâd take necro 3 + 2x fletcher (rank 8 is not important) anyday. Have you seen the missile debuff on necro?
Or I can just take 3x wiz 3 something warlock 2
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I dont think swordie dmg will ever be number one, even though tbh it should be in a game like this, where hitscanning is bad and facetanking doesnât really work for long unless youâre a dex type fencer (or a dex type anyone, itâs just that fencer takes most from dex).
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So, you constantly have to have two other people, a Dragoon 2 and a Chrono 3, babysitting you in order to be high enough in dps to compete with the dmg output of a single archer/wiz class?
Just need 1 dragoon for fencer to deal high single target damage. Youâre forgetting his new critical damage passive (3-4x).
HAHAHA, 20k per tick Zaibas, assuming I used divine might, and the there are 40 ticks overall, easy 800,000 damage. Not counting the various multipliers we get from % damage from Zaibas and the possible enhancement in daoshi.
Thats the point , every time u saw a swordie out dps archer and wizard in boss dps competition , it is worth , forever no1 on swordie head 
swordie wont forget what ppl in this forum talk about swordie at the moment , not a tank, not a dps, and they are gonna revenge in rank 8 by always get no1 dps on head.
My 255 dragoon with hoplite lvl 2 now max hit on stabbing is 18k each hit ,
with chrono 3 40 hit, also easy 700k âŚ
and fencer got higher dps than dragoon, how bout next rank 8 dragoon 2
increased 4 times fencer damage ⌠good luck on your thunder multiply
damage by 4 to 3.2million magic damage. 
I dont know why people are taking gifs damage in consideration (necromancer meteor 800 dmg ._.) From level 200 to 280 mobs hp got more than 3x higher. No wonder how much hp mobs will have at rank 8.
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âBack to #1â implies it was ever #1 to begin with.
Your argument is that with two swordsmen in a party, a Dragoon2 with Spear Lunge and Serpentine debuffs, and a Fencer3, the Fencer3 will deal more damage than anyone else.
What about a Wiz3Linker2Necro3 with super decay + a Fletcher3Mergen benefiting from decayâs missile damage debuff? Linker alone is going to give you more of a damage boost than Dragoonâs debuff in all likelihood, and Necro easily outdamages Dragoon alone while Fletcher easily outdamages Fencer alone. Not to mention the new skeleton archer summons that also benefit from decay, we have no idea how much damage theyâll be able to do.
Itâs a cute hypothesis but at this point youâre just randomly guessing how strong R8 will be. We donât even know the details on Fencerâs new crit increase skill, what if it only applies to your next attack like Preparation? What if it has a 2 minute cooldown and lasts 5 seconds? What if Mergenâs skills have inherent +400% damage scaling like Musketeer but with no cooldown?
Imagine inquisitor wheel spreading your damage? Will be awesome.
Man, we have too much âwhats ifsâ. âWhat ifâ fencer crit buff is like Quick cast? âWhat ifâ new doppel slash increasing skill is a buff for himself, not a debuff on mobs (like cleave)⌠âWhat ifâ you can debuff inquisitor wheel and spread swordsman damage to everything nearby?
We cant say âHur dur rank 8 killed swordsmanâ for now. As swordsman are not really dead nowadays, just lacking damage because people are on the âpeltasta must haveâ train.
fletcher is limited in C3 , and missle damage is -50% , rank 7 swordie may lose, but rank 8, swordie can be top dps by doing some specific team formation, it is not swordie fight dps with archer or wiz alone, it is the dps competition between swordie and other classes. as long as swordie can always be top dps everytime they go dungeon, i think most swordie player wont care about it.
What we try to discuss here is , if dragoon 2 + fencer together, fencer will always top dps in team , no matter what class inside, under same lvl and item. The war is start from other class 1st, so now iit is just the time swordie start revenge, and get no1 in rank 8.
You just didnt git gud.