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Swift Step Useless for a STR build? (Wugushi / Sapper Build)

Class and Rank Archer
#1

If I’m going almost all STR (with some CON obviously) Wugushi and minimum to zero DEX (Poisons dont Crit) is there any reason to pick up Swift Step? Most builds I see still max Swift Step but with such a low Crit Rate and Dodge Chance is there really any point? I’m wondering if these people maybe think the Crit % and Evasion % are flat chance to stats and unaware its a % of your stat… I mean 15% Evasion on a STR Plate Armor Build will be such a small amount and the movement speed doesn’t seem worth it either.

Planned Build = Archer C2 > Sapper C2 > Wugushi C2/3 > Cannoneer?

Maybe I’m wrong and the attribute Crit % and 15% Evasion bonuses are actually % chance and not % of stat chance, example 15% of 100 Crit Rate / Evasion would just make me have 115 Crit Rate / Evasion… so if I’m at like 20 Crit Rate that would only add 3… right?

On that note going STR Wugushi is it still the best route to go Archer C2 or QS C1 for the stun?

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#2

It’s based on your stat, so yes, if you only have low dex, then the 25% crit rate would be useless.

#3

Thats my build :smile:
I choose QS C1 for the stun and Scatter Caltrops

#4

@WaltDeWind

That’s what I’m thinking… what level are you ATM and how has it been? I think QS C1 is the better choice since most people take Archer C2 so they can get the Swift Step Attribute.

#5

QS c1 doesn’t add much. might as well take wugu3 for pve.

#6

@xylonez - I would drop Archer C2 not Wugushi C3, I’d maybe drop Wugushi C3 for Cannoneer though.

Reason being is I assume most people go Archer C2 for the Swift Step Crit Rate Attribute, which would be useless for an STR build.

#7

That’s what I said, read again.

#8

“QS c1 doesn’t add much. might as well take wugu3 for pve.”

At no point did I mention dropping Wugushi 3 for QS C1, I’m confused.

#9

I use a STR build and I have wugushi c1/fletcher c1. Both dots are doing great damage.

My crit comes from green gems and some dex points, but if you have patience you can go only with gems and get 50%+ crit late game. Will take a long time to reach this point tho.

#10

As someone who went Ranger instead of Archer 2, I say go Ranger because of Barrage. You’re going to meet quite a lot of flying mobs when in dungeons. But, I also regret not taking QS sometimes because the soft taunts by Caltrops and the Pavise would’ve helped in my survivability. Your choice.

#11

@Mooon But what you are saying is if I’m not DEX / Crit build Archer C2 is fairly useless and Ranger or QS would be more beneficial?

#12

the build you posted on first post, have 8 ranks.
Instead of thinking dropping cannoneer for wugu 3, why dont you just drop archer c2 for wugu3.

#13

@xylonez ooooohhh I see what you are saying. I can’t do that because at Circle 2 my only choices are Archer, Ranger or QS.

#14

I was saying I consider the other two options more appealing than Archer 2. Reason is because you’re never going to have more than 150 DEX with Wugushi and Sapper in your build, and in the late maps, 180+, magic will be your main enemy due to your distance from melee mobs.

#15

hmm, oh that’s right. Then I suppose there’s not much alternative to archer c2. QS c1 is just not worth taking.

#16

I’m assuming the QS stun does not apply to bosses at all, in which case they should allow it to apply but with a diminished effect.

#17

I’m currently AR2 / Sap2 and did consider this before.

You’re forgetting archer 2 gives you multi shot lvl 10 with the added attribute of halfing the cast time… IMO that is reason enough to go with archer 2 for your build with the lack of single target spells early on.

Ranger you’re really only getting for barrage as steady aim doesnt work with traps and poison. Could be useful against flying mobs.

So it’s really between barrage and multi-shot.