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Is âif you didnât pay real money for something, you shouldnât get compensated with real moneyâ a reason good enough?
Humor me: Why should someone who gave no money to the company be compensated with the equivalent of money in game? The fact that a Token costed 198 TP didnât impact those people in any way (theyâd pay market price for a Token regardless of it costing 99, 198 or 500k TP), so why exactly should they be compensated for something that they didnât pay real money - only pixels - for?
Another way to put that is: People are getting $10 vouchers for something they bought with $20. Is it fair if some people get $300 or more in vouchers when they bought everything not with $600+, but $0? This is not a matter of spite, itâs a matter of fairness involving real money.
Note: I wonât benefit either way, since I never bought a Token (TP or silver). Itâs just that treating real money the way IMC is treating could be dangerous at best. I was always against selling Tokens for silver. 
Because compensating them with the silver would involve a rollback that no one wants. Giving them the TP is easier.
Also to echo your post earlier, people who bought from the TP shop still have, have used, or have sold what they paid their 198tp for. There is no loss to compensate.
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Wrong. What they have spent their TP in TP shop (and still have possession of) is now worth less. That is a loss of value.
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No. No it is not, if you want to claim something you have to back it up.
Those pixels are their time, and time is money. And yes, the the 198TP cost did impact those people. As if the tokens were 99TP to begin with then there would have been more available with limited supply of TP right now, and if there was more available then the price on the market would have been lower.
Terrible analogy, People give vouchers to other people for free all the time. The place of redemption still had itâs initial $20 per $10 sale and thatâs what counts.
What people have spent their Silver in market (and still have possession of) is now worth less. That is a loss of value.
That is also wrong. Because Tokens cannot be re-sold, so their value is only in benefits they can provide. It could have been applied only if IMC changed token benefits which they didnt.
If you continue to twist words then we will be going in circles. You are not being constructive as you are not suggesting anything in return.
Once again youâre providing arguments against both sides.
If someone bought a token from the TP store, then activated it, then itâs value is only in benefits it can provide. It could have been applied only if IMC changed token benefits which they didnt.
And their time certainly pays for server costs and whatnot, instead of putting a strain on the servers with no monetary compensation coming from the player. Am I right or amirite?
This is only speculation on your part. Here, let me give you the relevant quote:
The price could have been lower, thatâs for sure. But how can you say with absolute certainty that people wouldnât spend half their TP on tokens and half their TP on enchant scrolls, mantaining the supply of tokens more or less the same? If the only way to use TP was buying Tokens, your conjecture would be absolutely right. Given that itâs not, youâre just speculating with no actual base to back you up.
Are you voluntarily ignoring the meaning of the analogy and just focusing on the word âvoucherâ or was I not clear enough?
Are you missing that the WHOLE POINT of this thread is making the âvoucherâ personal and non-transferable, so only people who actually paid $20 can get it or are you just here for the good times?
I sold my Tokens 4 380k each. Now buy 3 tokens 4 have some tp 650k each. Buy all Founders Packs. End.
Eh? Ok.
Its about when someone tell here about compensation. I think its will be only 4 Founders Packs with amount of TP (4 every token player buy). TP its real money. So compensation to players, who buy tokens from market - its a bad joke. Who buy tokens - they have profit with 1 month of premium. Who sell - just have a little amounth of silver (i sold 4 380k each). So who say about 650k now and 300k after update - it`s joke. After update tokens still been 650k for one.
Yes it does. Because when you play an mmo, other players are the part of the content.
Try watching this https://youtu.be/WXA559KNopI?t=2m24s
Are you saying itâs only my speculation that tokens wonât be cheaper when the TP prize drops? Cause I can bookmark this thread and we can see in the week passing june 7th.
I guess youâre not clear enough. Cause all I see is a shitty analogy that doesnât work
No, my point is Iâm saying Iâm waiting a reason for the âvoucherâ to be personal and non-transferable. And somehow even despite your sarcarm abuse Iâm still waiting.
They wont. Because previous token price was heavily influenced by bots that were forced to buy DLC packs in order to continue their RMT thingy. Those bots sold tokens they bought with TP from DLCs to get additional silver to sell elsewhere. A sheer amount of bots created oversupply of token as well as demand for them was low (players were still using their 60/30 day tokens they got from DLCs as well).
Example: on server (Varena) that wasnt affected tokens are worth about the same as on Korean server - about 2 mil each.
Cheaper TP price for Tokens will decrease silver price for them on market but they wont be any cheaper than they are now in the long run. Also June 7 is a bad date since there will be oversupply of tokens again after blanket compensation that IMC are about to unleash. And dumb players will try to undercut each other in attempt to get silver from free TP they will get.
When you sell a house, itâs not yours anymore.
Thatâs just how the law is.
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Lol, and depox was accusing me of speculation⌠how long are you suggesting we need to wait to see the true market value of the tokens come through?
Also, still waiting on your explanation as to why someone who buys a token from the TP shop and uses it deserves compensation and someone who buys from the market doesnât. Even though both only have the token benefits so thereâs no perceived loss of value, as you put it.
about 3-4 months from now, assuming game wont be ghost town by then with new players unable to download the game. Steam charts arent looking very promising tho.
I actually agree on this one, but IMC decided to compensate active tokens as well, so⌠yeah.
When i first heard about this i agreed that only people who bought tokens with tp should be compensated, but i thought about it more.
People who bought tokens and sold them, did it with the notion that they are worth 198tp. So, while they will soon be worth less, they sold them when they were worth what they paid for them. If they were compensated they would end up with 297 TP worth of goods when they only put in enough for 198tp worth.
People who bought the tokens with silver did it with the notion that they were worth 198tp, but now these tokens will all be devalued because they are no longer worth 198tp, but half that. So if these players were not compensated, they would end up with 99 tp worth of goods when they spent 198tp worth in silver.
So i can see why imc decided to do it this way.
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Well jus keep it simple, whoever used or owning token (eligible 30 days) get compensation. Thatâs all. Those who sold for silver get their silver.
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