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STR or DEX for C3 R/F?

Hi.Community.

With R/F i mean Ranger/Falconer. I feel like the AoE of the Ranger gets optimized by Circling.

I am planning on doing Archer C2,Ranger C3 and Falconer C3. Now i dont know if Dex would be better for more Attack Speed and Crit dmg or Str for more pure skill dmg. I feel like i will mostly use skills instead of autos anyway and there aint much skills that provide bonuses increased by my attack speed.

On the other hand i will need the attack speed for bossing when using Kneeling shot. I dont have that much single targed skills with two of them are only for debuff purposes.

I ask this here because i am currently Lv.107 so i cant test it with the event in late game.:sweat:

I did test Archer - Ranger 3 - Rogue - Falcon 3 yesterday. The bossing damage was great but the AoE to kill mobs was not.

not enough aoe? facepalm, check attributes http://www.tosbase.com/database/attributes/310011/

Didnt really answer my question tho.:cold_sweat:

Circling:Expand attribute on Falconer is easily the strongest AoE in the game. You should check how the class is supposed to be used, you drop your Circling then follow up with multihit attacks to cause duplicate hits to everything inside Circling. Very powerful. And works for every non-magic party member performing attacks in the circle.

kneeling shot gives a really neat damage boost if you go full dex.
I plan to do the same build today, since I’m not into the Qs3 > Falc 3 meta, and I’m going for full dex. People says that full dex are missing a lot, so after all, maybe a bit of str for accuracy is needed. I’m not sure tho.
But, since you are leveling, I guess you should aim for more str for accuracy, or maybe you’ll have a hard time.

You could also use Monstrance Scrolls to reduce the enemy EVA as part of the kit of that character.

The problem was not having a good multihit AoE to abuse circling expand. Barrage is just not enough for that, Spiral Arrow is one enemy only with fake multihit.

My atribute is lvl 10 btw so 50% to give damage to another enemy for reference.

I see, that makes sense. So the Archer Tree ends up being better than Ranger. Makes sense really. Oblique Shot is currently bugged and does ridiculous things. Multishot is just amazing in combination.

Falconer3+Multishot pretty much renders the concept of Ranger useless, because it’s so much better at it. Might get nerfed or Ranger might get some buffs perhaps as its role is being made a bit redundant.

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Oblique shot just hits 2 enemys if i am not wrong while Rangers Bounce shot hits 7 (1 target+6 splits). So with all 5 charges of Oblique shot you hit 10 enemys. Bounce shot with 2 charges hits 14 enemys with much more dmg and DPS.

If we add the chance of circling then Bounce shot also has a much higher chance to get boosted AoE dmg. Also someone mentioned that Barrage sometimes is superior to Multishot because you dont always have the time to fully load it.

Also nice to mention is that High Anchoring is a pretty good AoE skill. Depending on the level this skills AoE radio in circling is INSANE. You pretty much hit everything in circling with it and reduce the crit resistance of all enemys by 75.

So i dont feel like Ranger has to hide between Archer C3 at all.:slight_smile:

When she mentions oblique shot with circling being bugged he means this.

For the rest of what you said. I’ve no comment. I just began testing ranger.

Well its a huge mistake to build around bugs anyway. Once it gets fixed you wasted skill points for nothing or at worst you skilled a whole circle (in this case archer C3) for nothing.

I wouldnt recommend bug using like that.

Bump.

Question about STR or DEX still stands.

go STR, your invested DEX will be useless if you rarely crit

Hmm what about droping ArcherC2 for Appraiser then ?

The only reasons to go ArcherC2 are MultiLv10,Swift Step Crit and Kneeling Shot.

As Ranger/Falconer i doupt i will use Kneeling. Multi ist that big of a deal because Falconer and Ranger have plenty skills to fire into circling. The only loss would be that Crit buff on Swift steps.

Instead i get with the Appraiser:
1.) Skill with HUGE dmg and 100% Crit (3 charges). Also increases crit dmg on targed and lowers crit def of enemys arund targed.
2.) Enchancment buff
3.) Forgery

I am just not sure if appraiser would actually work well with Falconer at all.<.<

100% crit is for the 1st hit only. You can try to fit appraiser in your build, and test whether it is suit your playstyle or not.

Yes i know but it also debuffs all enemys around. If we combine that with the hunters debuff there should be a high chance for crits i guess.

try it and post the result here

First i need to unlock the appraiser. Was to lazy until now. :smiley: