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Spam skill vs Running shot AA's

Class and Rank Archer
#1

Maybe someone can help me here, I wanna know how spamable skills compare to running shot auto attacks for single target in late game, skills have enhance atributtes and running shot does not wich makes me think they can come close to each other in damage.

For example:

  • Archer C3 - Twin Arrows - 5 charges, 7 se CD pretty fast animation, 2 hits but low damage.
  • Fletcher - Barbed Arrow - 0 CD slow animation, good base damage can deal 1~3 hits.
  • Scout C3 - Split Arrow - 0 CD low damage and fast animation
  • Ranger - Critical Shot - 0 CD low damage (62% crit chance with full str build could be nice) fast animation.

I have no idea how to test this since skills and auto attack animations are dependent on ping, but if anyone knows anything please share it.

Thanks.

#2

Some skill based classes Will out dmg QS by far, but the skills you chosen are just terrible with only single target dps in mind.

#3

Running shot builds are really sketchy imo.

-Our servers are unstable often and this build doesn’t survive high latency
-kToS just fixed the animation cancelling abilities of mouse mode effectively nerfing archer autos
-It reportedly falls off damage wise without godlike gear anyway

I really wanted to play one until I realized all of the above as well as that I’m on the other side of the continent from my server. The class has it’s uses in pvp at C1 but C3 has an uncertain future imo.

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#4

I mean think about it if you can get the auto going you can be doing 10k autos it can be fairly crazy.

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#5

I am creating an quarrel C3 just to test a little of these stuff, though it won’t be an end game test it might answer some questions.

#6

to get pup to the 10k dmg point you need to be geared out heavily so dont be bumed out when the dmg is meh early on even at near 280 I’m not with a amazing weapon averaging 3-4k crits consatntly I’m full dex build

#7

I just need to test the attack speed vs skill spam delays after that I can find out the damage using the formulas.

#8

well i mean if you want a comparision of dmg split shot does some crazy dmg and can get up to 10k as well

#9

Ive seen split reach near 20k or dealt 20k something. https://youtu.be/4DpKuRQLYMI

#10

thats only 10k per hit (when crit) becomes 20k becaue its flying.

As per browsing youtube vids, 10k~sh is the strongest damage I’ve seen.

#11

The lines are split for each AA, so you’re likely doing more like 5~6k per arrow. The qs3 korean in the video that was posted in earlier thread does 11k crit on one of the lines, if you add them up it’s probably around 17k+ total critical damage (on non-flying) per arrow.

That said, without Didel QS3 damage does fall off, or at least it sure as hell feels like it.

I find it very risky to gamble on a build that is reliant on equipment to perform, even if by some miracle you obtain Didel, there is no guarantee that the future wave of weapons will contain another +2 to QS skills weapon and you already invested 5 or 6 of your circles empowering this one skill.

#12

Sadly the build is forced to hope for DGC… I hope they change the untradeablity on the DGC or add a way to get it becuase haveing your BIS locked behind 2 runs a day and RNG and untradable is just far to many locks x.x…

#13

My guess is that Twin Arrows deals as much or very close DPS to Running Shot, disreguarding the 7 second CD.

#14

It doesn’t come anywhere close.

#15

just noticed quarrel shooter have no circle 3 attributes

#16

well running shot being able to be attributed would make it to strong

#17

There are tons of Spam skill archer videos out there. Here are some videos of AA archers:

A2>QS3>Falc1

A3>QS3>Musk1

#18

Running shot AA is the best for speed farming low-hp mobs.

Sadly when it comes to ST damage on a boss, fletcher has that market cornered.

#19

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTKMSiEw2AM heavily geared out AA qs 3

#20

How come you picked barbed arrow over Magic Arrow for single target dps?
At dullahan the most buffed up fletcher parties gets the cubes but for farming monsters running shot has so much more mobility then fletchers, but if you’re talking about single target put magic arrow on that list.