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Some recommendations for a cannoner PvP build?(stats and skills)

Class and Rank Archer
#3

Having high DEX is ok with cannoner? i thought that with the scaled damage in their skills you need a good STR to use the class. Something like 160 STR, 60 CON and 251 DEX and even more, will be good for a PvP cannoner?

And with the QS3, it really has a good sinergy with cannoner? Running shoot seems for AA builds not for a skill spammer like cannoner. I was thinking in something like Archer C3 / Scout C1 / Fletcher C2 / Cannoner C2, with that i will have a high boost in evasion and critical rate , camouflage and cloaking. armor reduction and bleed debuff and the explosive power of cannoner, also with archer ranks i have some good utility skills like full draw and heavy shoot to frustrate some classes.

#4

for pvp in my opinion dex and con are better than str
and btw, running shot has synergy with bazooka and scale the additional damage. (it has been tested) but only the damage not the attack speed
cannoneer is a dex class btw.[quote=“Genryugan, post:3, topic:327840”]
Archer C3 / Scout C1 / Fletcher C2 / Cannoner C2
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not worth taking fletcher c2 btw, its either fletcher 3 or nothing
you can do archer 3 scout 3 cannoneer if you want, pretty good build imo.

#5

PVP cannoneer must have Scout 1 to use Cloaking.
Your stat build either be half con - half dex or full dex with some con.
Some STR also help against high con players, especially since Cannoneer passive has increased block penetration when using Cannoneer skills.

Whatever your stat build, the most important thing is your Cannon Blast attribute! Get it as high as possible, minimum should be 40%!

#6

Is scout c3 really worth it? with scout c1 i already have cloacking and camouflage, c3 for pvp seems only good for scan, split arrow seems more like pve farming.

Also i want to know by fletcher isn’t forth if i don’t go fletcher 3.

#7

What do you think about this stats without gear : 160 STR, 60 CON and 251 DEX and even more with futre levels, will be good for a PvP cannoner?
Please tell me your recommendations in final stats ( level 280 final stats without gear), I’m really lost about it.

#8

60 con is low. Need 100~120

I have a A3 Sc Flet2 Cannon, and need high skill cap, but if u know how to play u will win every match, even against meta (wiz and clerics)

#9

This build whas exactly what i was thinking to go, but some people say that if you dont go fletcher c3, better not go fletcher, I really don’t know why.

Can you tell me how many points you have in each stat without gear ? I’m really lost with points , more with my goal, full PvP with this caracter, with PvE focus high STR usually is the best for farming, but in PvP i don’t know…
Also I want to know what armor do you normally use with your build.
This will really help me.

#10

People who says that fletcher3 or nothing don’t know how to play fletcher as well. Fletcher has some skills like Bodkin Point and Crossfire burn debuff (beside Broadhead) that are useful in arena. Magic Arrow will be useful to ground control and if u use fulldraw in someone, u can magic arrow him and u will see HIGH DAMAGE.
Just go and see how good it is.

The status i suggest you going 100 CON, 50-70 STR rest DEX. Hybrid is always the way.

Equips i suggest u going full leather and improve ur mastery in leather sets. Virtov/shade combinations are good. Or if u can’t get this equips go Roxona set.

#11

That looks pretty good in my opinion, i just have doubt with that low STR, it will really help with cannoner passive or its better goind full DEX-CON with
late-game orientation?

Also you can share your stat build? I don’t want to buy future skill reset, after searching I found more builds pve than pvp, and i’m lost with what are the best for pvp (sp cost is an issue with level up some spammable skills and cannoner has a high consume) , people have really different opinions even with pvp focus.

#12

You are already admitting indirectly that your build is not optimal but suggest to play it.

#13

Why are to many people saying that fletcher is for going c3 or nothing? I really don’t understand, can you tell me why and what do you suggest if not taking fletcher c2 to fill in the path of pvp cannoner?
I just see a good skill from fletcher c3 and some more damage, but i think that cannoner give you more, fletcher c3 seems a path to go mergen and play pve with it.
Also arround 2 seconds more of bleed when you already have 10, seems to mutch.

#14

fletcher2 is enough, you go 3 if want pve.

cannoneer brings more versatility for pvp and capacity of playing gvg too, and you still can go cannon2 (better a lot than fletcher3 cannon1)

anyone who tells u to go fletcher3 is for pve

#15

Can you post your skill build? It will really help me since others just post pve focused skill builds.
Also can you tell me why you recommend just 50-70 STR? its enough for cannoner’s block pen attribute? It seems low, if its just for easy leveling i can go 100 con as you said and then full DEX.

Edit: I just found that broadhead bleeding scale with skill and attribute level, fletchers C2 broadhead is enough for a good bleeding effect?

#16

broadhead max
crossfire max
multishot max
fulldraw 7
twin arrows max
cannon blast max
siege burst 1
cannon shot max
anything else your choice

broadhead scales with str, i have 80 str and my broadhead dmg is about 35k
But don’t need this since you almost can’t use broadhead because oracles and pd
yes, broadhead nv 10 is enough for hit killing chars with 35k less hp

#17

You can go Fletcher2 if you drop A3 and go QS2 instead. Stun spam and Magic Arrow is a surekill combo.
A3 is only good for extra evasion and brings nothing on table that is worth picking it. Just take a look and decide yourself how dangerous physical based classes are compared to magic based.
Also, for break Safty Zone you can pick Rogue and have an opportunity to cancel every other aoe for once.

But what do I know? Pick what you want. You have to play it at the end of the day.

#18

As final question, you suggest to go 80 str or what number after testing it do you think its more optimal?

#19

FletcherC1 in build : reason : use as utility from Broadhead, Bodkin Point
FletcherC2 in build : reason : filler damage from Broadhead, Magic Arrow, Add damage for Higher Rank
FletcherC3 in build : reason : Focus on Fletcher max damage from Broadhead, Magic Arrow

So all of it is good. Don’t hesitate to make something different.

#20

well QS is your best choice for pvp with scout 1, hunter is pretty lacking.

#21

Video channel of cannoneer2 pvp:

#22

But what does exactly add QS 3 to the cannoner build? I know that the stone shoot is really good but with 3 rank i’m really incresing its mana cost and it don’t stun 100% so it will drain my sp for cannoner’s skills (even pots have cd and not this skill…).
I know that the reason to go QS 3 is for running shoot, but in a high dex build the 200% scaled damage seems nothing with low damage even if i crit (also based in the description it seems that the 200% is applied just with your phisical attack and not with your phisical attack plus the skill).
Someone can give his feedback about QS’s running shoot damage in high levels?

And yes I know that it seems that running shoot increase the damage of bazooka instance but this instance not seems to fit in pvp due to the really low setup to start and stop the fire, and then with the low transition between AA will be really annoying to keep the stance in pvp.

Right now the unique utility that I found in QS (with cannoner) is to stun the target and throw the new cannoner skill that makes an area where people recibe 50% more damage with the cannon thanks to the attribute. But this is something that QS1 already gives but that breakes some possible builds.
Yes deploy pavise and scatter caltrops can give some utility zoning oponents, but i don’t feel that they are enough to justify C3 and with C1 I don’t even know if they will work correctly in pvp with that low-level skills to include QS1 in my pvp build.