Hi guys. I am new to this game. I have a few builds for plague doctor and i would love to hear from you guys. It will be purely for PVE. I am going for pure SPR. By the way will it be good to go for SPR isntead of INT?
These are the two builds:
I will build both.
Will these be good?
Thank you.
If youâre aiming for purely pve, id strongly suggest grabbing a second circle of cleric.
Bokor will be a more damage focused build and priest will be a more defense focused build. Krivis is pretty nice for pd but with priest, you only need one circle of it. So if you go with option 1, id suggest a build path along the lines of
Cleric-> priest3-> cleric2 ->krivis -> pd2
And if you are aiming for the second path id suggest;
Cleric2-> bokor3 -> x -> pd2
I dont see the point in priest in a bokor pd build. You wont be using ressurection as often as you might think you will.
Normally, your build have priest2 which should have Mass Heal and Revive, you should be a good support. But because ToS communities are so toxic, there will be so much hate toward any builds without Cleric2. When they donât see 10 heal tiles on the ground, some one will start some curses automatically. Before you even type to explain any part of your build, some people left your party already.
Hi guys thanks for replying.
I dont really like cleric 2.
as i dont see any benefit going for it.
although safety zone is good.
Safety Zone with 20 more hits is really strong and the higher amount of heal tiles is also pretty good. Its kind of a community thing, you dont have C2 and you are not a good healer yadayada
Not really. I find 10 tiles of heal just nice imo. nearing to the end game specific content.
You can last with 5 x2 + mass heal. If you miscoordinate you are only left with 5 x2 tiles which only enables 1 person to heal max or 2 at times.
Situation is extremely sticky at this like during ET or at the moment 240 dungeons rushes.
At times i find them not having enough. during 240 running periods . It gets better after you over level at 260. Then you take way less damage due to level advantages
heal 10 is pretty mandatory for cleric lol. divine might is strong too.
cleric2>bokor3>pardoner>plague doctor 2 is the best cleric aoe dps for rank 8
It doesnât matter if you agree on Cleric2 or not. The matter is people do some wrong things to some Clerics without 10 heal tiles and that is what the toxicity is all about.
Well to each differ mostly those mechanical indept will understand the rationale lel.
Cleric 2 > Bokor 3 > Priest 1 > PD 2.
Cleric 2:
Safety Zone 4 = +20 hits on safety zone making it reliable.
Cure level 10 = 28 hits with INT scaling (pretty good single target nuke)
Heal level 10 = 2 x 20 hits with INT scaling (also pretty good single target nuke, Blessing makes Heal do double damage)
Divine Might level 5 = you can choose 5 skills on your build to save 1 level, this can help a lot on points distribuition.
Fade 1 = Situational, hardly needed.
Bokor 3 for obvious synergy with PD 2, Zombify on high level with level 5 Damballah does GREAT damage.
Priest 1, compared with Priest 2: (Priest, to me, is the only single rank of cleric who doesnât fall of at all. Pardoner gets worse with longer debuffs from PD 2, Oracle doesnât bring enough because Counterspell has 90 seconds CD and Prophecy doesnât prevent Hexing)
Resurrection is much better than Revive, 30 seconds CD and can revive anyone on itâs range, is really the only skill you need in terms of reviving.
+28% DEF from aspersion is a very solid buff, probably only loses to Revive/Stone Skin Priest-wise.
Blessing is enough at C1 for a non-SPR build for itâs attribute and 2x heal damage.
Mass Heal is not a reliable source of Heal, Heal level 10 is, Restoration scrolls can make you Heal MUCH more, making Heal level 10 all you need for ET.
Cleric 2 + Priest 1 is all you really need in terms of support as a Hybrid DPS-Support PD 2.
Hi there to you and to everyone else (have no idea how to reply to everyone).
Well the reason being of my build(s) is because i intended to go for SPR rather than INT. I am not sure how significant it is to go for INT or not for these build but I hope going for SPR is not such a bad thing.
I mean some of the good buffs scale with SPR more than INT.
I dont really intend to be a full flagged âhealerâ.
I like the idea of helping in the sense of buffing and perhaps as a second damage dealer/emergency healing.
I did not know that players here in this game can be so toxic to people who chose not to be a âhealerâ despite being a cleric. Wow.
Okay so I have decided to still go through without CLERIC 2 on my builds.
BUT!
However, the build you gave me looks promising too.
Why not go for Cleric 3 > Bokor 3> PD2? Iâm thinking INT since I dont have much buffs going for this way. Would cleric 3 be better? If it is so significant to go for cleric 2 just for the heal 10, might as well i went all the way to cleric 3. 15 heal max. BAMM! >.>
Oh yes, anyway on a different question, would it be better to go for SPR or INT for bokor path? Is it necessary to go for INT? I have a feeling SPR is better cause i can spam that 3 hits thingy from bokor while the mobs are all affected from the curse using pandemic from pd.
Also guys, what are the ideal skills for all?
Currently I am in game so i have no time yet to show you all my builds and skills i would choose.
Thanks.
That defeats the purpose of even having divine might.
No. Zombify is not worth any points at all in an INT build. They take too long to get into possition and damballah runs counter to even having zombies in the first place. Just a horrible idea in general.
Priest 1 is not âneededâ anywhere. Its only decent in a couple places and most of the time, you wont need the ressurection at all. Also, aspersion is better to be bought from a pardoner due to the longer duration, max rank and itâs situational benefit.
The reasons why cleric 2 is more used than cleric 3 are mostly because;
The heal tiles become overkill and a waste. Generally (and especially for int builds) 5 tiles will fill one allyâs hp to full if they are below 20%. Its about 7 for non int builds but either way, having 30 tiles for 5 people is over kill.
Most of the reason behind cleric 2 is to get that safety zone attribute and divine might which increases the number of blocked attacks by 20 + what ever level you leave saftey zone at. The tiles arent the main focus of it. Also, cure10 is pretty nice.
Although cure15 is even better, it still feels like a wasted circle due to the lack of a decent circle 3 ability. Guardian spirit is absolute garbage. Completely and utterly unusable trash. Compared to Quick Cast (+ attribute) from wizard3, double slash from sword3 and twin arrowâs efficency from archer3, guardian spirit is just uselessly bad.
The benefits to having pardoner or oracle instead of that 3rd circle of cleric are too great to pass up for just 10 more heal tiles.
With Pardoner, you can extend your debuffs on targets with Discerning Evil, you can craft dispellers for yourself and friends and you get a decent magic defense buff out of it too. Also, indulgentia can cure level 2 debuffs (like hexing and incinerate) off of anyone on your screen basically. Its just really nice to have.
With Oracle, you get level 1 debuff imunity, some neat farming tools for those rare drops and counterspell which is a big middle finger to anything that tries to hit you with magic damage or use a magic circle. Oracle is more of a pvp focused circle but it still is way more worth it than clericâs 3rd circle.
The synergy between pardoner and PD is insane and the usefulness of oracle in pvp is quite strong too.
If you wanted a more spirit focused damage build, you would want to go chaplain to be honest. It benefits the most out of spirit while still keeping some of the damage roll filled. I still get 1s on my high level chaplain in mission runs even with pure damage classes in the mix. The only problem with that is that you lose the opportunity to get a circle of either cleric2 or krivis1 to help your party.
If you dont mind going support though with still a bit of auto attack damage capability then cleric2priest3krivisPD works wonderfully for that. Your main damage would be auto attacks with blessing and sacrement up along with the occasional incinerate, although incinerate wont be doing as much damage as an int buildâs incinerate would do, it would still be some damage. The main problem with that build is that it is pretty painful to level solo passed a certain point. So id only suggest doing it if you have friends to help carry you or a static party to participate in.
Thereâs been a lot of discussion about the Cleric C2 - Bokor C3 - Pardoner C1 - Plague Doctor C2 build and how itâs the meta DPS in Korea. Thereâs a few reason for this.
First and foremost, Cleric C2 - Bokor C3 - Pardoner C1 - Plague Doctor C1 was the most popular build prior to R8 being released. With R8 released, the most sensible option was that anyone who went that build beforehand, would continue with Plague Doctor C2, and so the amount of people who pigeon-holed into that build was very large.
Bokor is at itâs core is a very, very good soloing class (the best of all Cleric jobs), exacerbated by the tools Plague Doctor C2 provides. Pardoner while amazing, was somewhat needed for a lot of Cleric to upkeep skills like Incineration Lv. 5. However with Plague Doctor C2, Incinerationâs innate upkeep is quite high (100% uptime with merely a few debuffs now) and Plague Vapors has a 100% uptime with Divine Might. Hexingâs upkeep was already insanely high for itâs cooldown and Pardoner only allowed accessibility in terms of matching Pandemicâs cooldown (the duration should match Pandemicâs CD to ensure you could always use Pandemic afterwards) with less points invested into Hexing, allowing you to spend the points elsewhere if you wanted to.
I want to make it a point that while the Pardoner C1 pick is quite strong, itâs only supremely popular because it was necessary when there was only one circle of Plague Doctor previously. It being necessary then led to it being popular now. It however is not necessary now, and you can afford to pick up things like Priest C1 or Oracle C1 if you want to specialize into other purposes.
Pardonerâs lynchpin is that it plays well with other debuffers. Hopefully by now you know who youâll be playing with long term, and if you need the ability to extend debuffs (e.g. playing with a Dragoon C2 to extend Serpentineâs debuff). Itâs also a good PvP pick with Indulgentia and Increased Magic Defense, despite not having much spirit in our build, is a nice little boost.
Bokor C3 ends up being the strongest PvE pick to capitalize on Effigyâs highest multiplier, but the damage difference from C2 to C3 is passable by a few thousand at the highest funded Bokor. If you could live without Damballa, you could afford to replace that circle as well. It becomes possible to take a job like Oracle C1 for PvP without even losing Pardoner C1.
There are options to how you build a Bokor PD now with Plague Doctor C2. Itâs not completely necessary to follow the Korean build to a T, if you want to customize the build a touch.
Hi there thanks for the input.
At present, I already went for Priest C1 instead of Cleric C2 IF i want to go for Bokor. Would it still be advisable to go with this path and not went for pardoner 1? I mean it be impossible for me to take pardoner 1 if i want to go for bokor 3. I feel really messed up right now. I already went for priest 1 and full SPR.
Can I still be able to save my character? I am in all honesty tired of rerolling already.
Right now I can only see the possibilities of going for either:-
or
Which is necessary circle and which is not?
Really confuse and tired now.
And now that I already went for SPR.
Thanks.
Is SPR good on bokor and pd? Anyone?
I went for SPR because people said its good it you went for priest and krivis since the buffs scale with SPR.
Then I will explain about Int vs Spr. In this game, you have to balance your Stats. Without Con, you will die too fast to heal and even one hit kill which is impossible to heal. Without Spr, your sp pool will be too small, except you play Cleric which has the highest hidden Spr. I donât know that is a thing but I can feel it. Finally, Int is what you put as many point as you can in it. You will get 10% Int, every time your class rank up. As the game progress, the more you invest in Int early, the more bonus 10% you get.
Even some skills have scale with Spr, those scales also usually scales with Int too. Pure Spr build will lose so much damage output because those builds alway try to avoid skills with Int scale and there are no 10% bonus for Spr.
Normally around lv.200, you should have
80-100 Con,
20-40 Spr and
as many as you have Int.
If you do Spr build, you can have 100 Spr with a lot of skills with Spr scale.
can you explain me why would Divine Might be a waste if I use it to save a few points on determined spells?
Zombify, in static places like ET or Uphill Defense, is 100% uptime debuff for +2 seconds on incineration, Damballah has great scaling to be honest. In general Zombies help me aggro mobs, do good damage as they scale with maps (they are also getting 3x attack and HP iirc) and allow me to use a good nuke (damballah) every 10 seconds if I only have enough zombies.
Please consider Bokor is hard to play, I did not expect Damballah to be a easy skill to use, I can still make good damage if i simply throw Damballah in the middle of my zombies. If I Damballah in the middle of the Zombify circle I can easily fill up the 15 explosions. (200% + 1k damage each, x 2 for 100% attribute, x 1,3 if Hexing is ON, = 620% + 2,6k damage per zombie, thatâs correct right?)
Yes, Priest 1 is indeed not needed anywhere, but it is GREAT support everywhere, what I said is it fills very nicely your filler rank if what you seek is support, since Bokor 3 + PD 2 already brings enough in terms of DPS. I like Oracle but 90 seconds of cooldown are too much for CS, also low count on level 5. I understand why Pardoner is meta but I donât feel like itâs worth it to me at least.
Hi i need your input about my character please.
At the moment I already went for full SPR currently at level 30.
Atm, my path is already Cleric 1 > Priest 1
If i want to go for bokor 3>PD2 would this be alright?
Since I cant really change my circle and my stats anymore at the moment unless of course I reroll my character which i hate
Would this be alright?
Cleric 1> Priest 1> Bokor 3> Cleric 2> PD2? FULL SPR?
Can I play bokor and pd with full spr? or INT is the best ? x_x;
Atm my SPR sits at somewhere around 4x
Thanks.
Hmm. I donât advise it. Spirit doesnât really do much for your kit at the endgame. Like⌠nothing noticeable.
At level 30, I advise you either start over your character altogether, or feign that those 29 levels of points + bonus points youâve obtained wonât make a big impact later on. For your sake, I recommend the former.
but will SPR be good with this build?
and i heard people said its better to go for cleric 2 than priest 2 >.>
x________x;
tell me something.
wouldnt spr be good on effigy?
i mean you can basically spam it.
and spr has better prospect?
as in high mr etc.
while int just provides damage boost.