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[solved] Is dex really that great in melee builds?

I’m not saying you’re wrong, not in the slightest, we’re not talking math here. Nor theory.

Lv10 Gems are do-able, at some point. I don’t think even a single one exists right now. Lv9 maybe, Level 10 is ludicrous to make and you’re thinking wielding them like they’re a dime a dozen. xD

Okay, OP can be exactly that guy then ahah!

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not wanting to join the whale fight, just trying to figure out what stats to put without just blindly going full dex because it’s the meta :stuck_out_tongue:

I didn’t either, my Archer (which is DEX heavy), invested 301 Dex exactly + hidden quest for 1 DEX to get a flat 400 DEX when naked.

The rest of the points are unspent. That’s how it is :stuck_out_tongue:

well, its a meta for a reason (coz people spent like alot effort into making that formula)

and, about the blind thing… i guess u are new player… how many lv330 character do u have?

u can formulate your own stat n strategy if u made enough toons… different class different strategy

also, stat n equipment isnt much of a problem now.

u can buy costume with silver n exchange it to medal for stat reset potion.
lv10gems u can afk-farm silver like a bot

yugimori is just legendary like sao kirito.

full dex or high dex low con is meta for physical class (coz dex give evasion)
phy dmg can be achieved from hair accessory/gem/transcend etc

str is overated now until imc being imc, they fcuk the whole meta up again with so called patches/fixes

pure dex is not a formula. i’m looking for more information (like the gem charts) so i can make my own decisions.

i don’t really understand the undertones of hostility?

Yes, it is getting easier to reach Def/Mdef threshold.
HP is less worth if you can’t die anyway (1 damage).

I prefer magic def/phys def headgear over HP headgear too.


Flame turtle :sob: Homing fireball

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my bad.

but u do give the image u underestimating the meta, even belittle the effort/info a little.

as for pure maths/data, i think u gotten what u need.

huehuehue

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Triple Knockdown Lock!~


@like100ninjas.mail Though, the idea is laid out, unless IMC drastically changes STR or CON (heck even SPR) to provide more benefit than what they’re doing now, this is the primary build to take.

Not that it’s required, I just felt obligated to let you know since you’re inquiring, but you don’t have to do it :smiley: it’s your character at the end of the day.


Lastly, I stand corrected on the Lv10 Gem thing, but I’m willing to bet a million Silver not a single one of his Lv10 is a Green.

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@DiMeowgio yea i didn’t do the math for lower level gems but i got a better understanding of a couple things i needed to know from this topic, which was the point i guess.

@haukinyau1 i know you’re a troll, but i’m sorry for belittling your efforts anyway.

huehuehue

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I think the reason why a lot of people dex is that crit atk is easier to get compared to crit rate. Headgear enchants can give up to 190+ crit attack while crit rate enchants can only give a maximum of 14. If you can reach crit rate cap using gears then going str instead of dex is not a problem at all. I don’t really have the exact calculations so I might be wrong in this.

Dex also provides evasion which is good especially when physical attack mobs start hitting hard. Str gives block penetration which is kinda important in PVP (I think).

Use Physical attack headgears. They get multiplied by 1.5 when you crit - they beat crit attack headgears.

Use yellow gems on Main Weapon since they have a higher value than red gems & red gem = random (max attack increase).

Use red gem on off-hand since it is Physical attack (multiplied by 1.5 when you crit).

Is this rugal’s alt or is it seifer’s? Summoning @jchsc32 @unicorntheshiny hey we have a theorycrafter over here.

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@Kakorrhaphiophobia i’m just me. hopefully they’re not the ones here who write full dissertations about how stupid people who start forum topics are.

i agree red give higher patk in offhand, but as a full dex myself, i prefer yellow in offhand for more consistency…

just me though

@op, well, trolling or not, u r free to do half str half dex like u initially theorycrafted… theres always stat reset anyway.

im just saying full dex is the meta and people call me troll… i cant even brain that… hue~

btw, fun theorycrafting is dead in tos because its either u join meta for full efficientcy, or u just gonna buy skill/stat/class reset afterwards~

no more fun in tos

meh

Hmm, I believe red in off-hand is better hauki.

For example, take 5 star gems:

Off-hand
Red = +110 Physical attack
Yellow = +145 Crit attack

Crit with red gem => 165 damage total (110 x 1.5)
Crit with yellow gem => 145


On main-hand, crit + yellow is more consistent yes. Red on main weapon = +max attack.

sry but its red gem rng (1~110) x 1.5 versus yellow consistant 145

i always have badluck rng… i have to give up on chances and admit my fate even if yellow give lower output…

just my luck…

huehuehue

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he’s saying red on off-hand isn’t max atk, just phys atk.

Hauki I believe you are misunderstanding red gem effect.
Off-hand red gem is not RNG
(well, it is still +145 minimum & +145 maximum)

Red gem on main weapon is RNG ( +0 minimum & + 240 maximum)

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Good luck if you don’t build dex.

Because not processing a Crit in this stage is literally a good bye kiss to 30-40k damage late game when your PER SKILL damage hits like 100k. With crit.

Only exception are mage which are a dead R8 class even with max int.