I didn’t know asking for a smooth gameplay/framerates at the very least for a game that you paid for is entitlement. Let’s not forget it’s technically official release now.
^And not really. There’s been a lot of very high levell group of players who have voiced their complaints in the past so clearly you can enjoy the game but feel the need to voice out concerns as well.
Mostly of the complains I see here are really fair, about real problems with the servers and the game. I rarely see someone complaining about “getting things easier”.
Unnecessary topic.
Yes this is why I also find Bananas and Zips “white knight everywhere” comments hilarious. The nature of gaming forums dont even agree with that.
Most the “white knights” are in-game barely even noticing the forums exist, other than news updates.
no need to praise when they should be doing what they are supposed to do seeing as how this game is a business. And its good to see complaints do that imc is aware of it occuring. You dont praise a chef for giving you cooked food that taste bad
And saying there isnt alot of things to complain about is just you refusing to accept the true. The game is full of bugs, connection problems, lags, bots, unbalanced classes etc. Everyone playing the game can see that, there is no way to deny that reality.
Of course you can’t come up with a witty response. You are not witty.
Oh snappp. Pssst, burned.
I am bored, so I will post this.
The game is great, I like how it is, the concept and the endless grind that we have the option to do.
But the biggest turn off for me is the lag, bad optimization, unable to do dungeons because of that Excessive count when me and my partay are all 0/3. My package buying is not a donation, it is to support the game and there is a certain expectation that buyers would expect of their sellers.
Ive seen people complain about perfectly cooked food.
Did you read the terms of service? You didn’t pay for smooth frame rates lol…
Perhaps I should go back to being paid minimum wage mindlessly designing video games without any education because its so easy sarcasm
That is exactly what it is… read the contract you accepted when you paid 10 dollars…
[quote=“varuna, post:9, topic:251010”]Yes… IMC good job for doing your job.
We should also thank burger flippers for flippin those burgers and thank the mail man a good job for delivering the mail.
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My sarcasm alarm went off on this one. but i’ll bite.
Why not thank someone for good service they provide: mailman when they deliver your correspondence to your apartment, or pizza delivery guy/gal? Or if you get to enjoy a properly cooked juicy tasty burger.
I think it is a natural thing to do for anyone who considers themselves a polite and civilized person.
Nice one, you actually managed to gather four (3 or 4 depending on your personal threshold) of the legendary poop posters of this forum already, in less than 20 minutes.
I think (yes, I’ve been thinking why it is in such a sad state) part of the reason why these forums lack quality is the design of these forums. The current pageless one discourages long threads because it’s harder to skim through threads and look for interesting parts of the conversation.
When this is combined with the lax moderation, it seems to encourage posters with very short attention span and quantity over quality discourages any well thought and longer replies at the same time.
But I agree with you OP, the senseless complaining and demanding has gone out of proportions and currently it’s really discouraging to try to have proper discussions here. Currently the only way would be different discord channels. It seems majority of those who actually enjoy playing this game have escaped into there. These poop smearers are effectively repelling all the normal players away. I have no idea why I even bother to browse these forums myself. I hardly ever find a proper thread on General Discussion I want to participate for other reasons than just to discourage shitposting in hopes things will turn for better eventually.
I thought that as well. It was a odd comment by both of them.
The way varuna words it, is different.
I probably wouldnt say “good job” to the guy flipping burgers, but Id definitely without hesitation would say Thank You.
YOU STUPID OP? THERE WILL BE NO FORUMS
IF PPL CANT COMPLAIN IN FORUMS…FORUMS ARE MADE SO CUSTOMERS CAN COMPLAIN. LIVE WITH IT. 
Is it the attitude that bothers you, or the complaints themselves?
uh long opinion incoming. while I agree that games are art, as who is highly interested in joining the industry, mmorpgs are probably the furthest removed from an “artform” any game can get. The only artistic value is the graphics, animations, music, core mechanics, and storyline. And very, very slightly, the experience that the devs wanted to bring us. The experience of an mmo is very, very loosely tailored in order to have the consistent multiplayer format intact, and changes in response to- surprise- money. What consumers want has so much more constant weight in the mmo industry. You can consider that art if you please, but I don’t find things like dungeon limits, low spawn rates, and etc to be art. uhh I can see how circle resets might be intrusive, but that’s about it.
Games are art because an artist envisioned a complete experience and felt like games were their best shot at conveying what they wanted to create. The thing is, mmorpgs all want to create the same thing in different aesthetic shells, and will easily change their vision or stoop down to overusing rng and never trying anything new for the simple goal of gaining money. Nothing wrong with it, we all know what we signed up for, but that gives us room to want changes.
tl;dr: saying people are entitled and stupid for complaining about mmorpgs because they are an “art form” is a bit silly.
I also don’t like the way people demand things, but I think suggestions are always fair when it comes to online gaming. The moderators, if they do have 10 years of legendary experience, do not need a mini internet army to defend them against threads that they know very well not to respond to, or to respond to very, very carefully. They can tell the difference between actual dissatisfication and people pushing something for their own personal gain, and raging.
If you’re trying to create a better community, that’s fair, but you certainly don’t seem to be interested in changing anyone’s mind with your own attitude issues and the neat little line you want to draw between yourself and the other half of the community. Try to compromise more. No, you don’t owe people respect if they annoy you, but do not try to pretend to be the better person if you retaliate in kind.
lastly, it is nice to hear some appreciation for something you’re working for, but if your work is subpar or inadequate, you are no more entitled to praise as these people are entitled to large changes to the game. And yes, saying it’s their job is completely valid. A programmer doing complex work is paid more than a burger flipper. They were also trained for this. Saying it’s okay to do badly in your profession just because it is not menial work is strange.
Sometimes I wonder too why do I bother to browse and reply to the complain threads here. All of them came out of the same mold
Some are legit complains though, like latency/connection issues, commanderloadfail issues etc. Many others like reset potions, token/trade functionality/benefits are really uncalled for.
I’m sure developers can understand that but these entitled complainers who think everything can be fixed by a snap of fingers and expect there to be an army of thousand coders ready on their battle stations 24/7 are pissing on their own cereals.
They should send PMs and support tickets instead of ruining the forums for everyone. It’s not nice when they keep discouraging others enjoying the game. To me it seems like some of the posters enjoy complaining and being all rage more than the actual playing.
My thoughts exactly. I wish I could double like this post 
Except when ur on a high end graphic card for example a GTX 970 with a I7 6700k and 16gb of DDR 4 ram with an fibre optic connection which you can run all other games smoothly with not much frame rates randomly dropping in crowded and non crowded areas.
And then comes this game which pretty much potato to games like Black desert, Guild wars 2, etc and it can’t freaking even maintain a 60 FPS.
Then there is something wrong.
I can understand that. I was one of the people more defensive of an mmo company before, on another game. It always bothered me when people were unable to keep discussion in a single thread, at the very least. People should definitely be more mindful of the image they put out as a community.
MMORPG forums are always a lousy place for discussion. nobody wants to find a middle ground with each other, nobody realizes that having common decency and simply being nice/patient actually has people change their minds much, much easier than spewing insults and kicking your leg out every time someone disagrees with you. Honestly, while I find a lot of the complaints perfectly valid, I also do not blame people for hating how the forums are most of the time.