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So.... Guys there's any way that we can be heard? Something we can do?

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#161

People tried the flower power and begging thing months ago. Everyone kind gave up because their skulls are so thick you need dynamite over there. No amount of positive reinforcement has ever motivated them into buying better and more servers or having a dedicated programmer to fix up the game code. Because holy crap that’s where 99.9% of all these problems stem from aside the balance issues which is because of their own stupid opinions. They are so thick that everyone is looking to extract the sweet juicy syrup of frustration as a player which slowly trickles in as you play from them every time someone breaks the game.

It’s become more fun to troll the company than to play the game because they just don’t fix things.

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#162

This, I agree with. There were DEFINITELY some poor decisions being made. And we are playing a BETA after one-year post-release. That much is clear.

So now, where do we (GMs, Devs, and players) go from here?

#163

This game really is still in beta. Id say staff is a big contributing factor to a games success (fixing shit/ communicating to players) Again i bring up JToS its the same freaking game but they got a ■■■■ ton more players. Its a pretty good indicator ;<

#164

imc owe us quality service, but again, they dont owe us anything…
(their terms of service said, they allow us to play… lel)

how is that we owe them suggestion/feedback/praising?

what? so tos now burns on suggestion/feedback/praising now?

we are customer, we give our money to good service/product, thats our feedback.

we give middle finger to bad service/product, thats our feedback.

99threads about how bad tos is, they should know by now, what is the feedback.

suggestion? i play tree of mr kim, not tree of mr lionly or anyone.
if mr kim run out of idea how to make mmo great again, maybe he should just run out of business.
business world is cruel

were u there during march april may 2016 when itos first released?

do u have any idea what happened to our supposedly 50k itos population?

ya? where do we go?

only imc knows… but then again, “staph emberrasing urself”

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#165

To say absolutely nothing has improved since 9 months ago is what blindness truly is. Yet some of us are “whiteknights” even if we stay in the middle on the issues. All these people are good for is talking in circles and refusing to move on, again, for some reason.

#166

For sure man, we as players should not reward bad business practices with money. And we should definitely let him run out of money. And sadly this kinda BS is rampant in F2P MMOs. But that is not the point; the point is that taking targeting and attacking other players who wish to express their frustration in a different way (aka “white knights”) is not helpful to anyone.

And the “stop embarrassing yourself” feels like it was taken out of context. I agree it was not a good PR move whatsoever, but I think John was speaking to the exploiters (mainly from SEA) that try to underplay what they did by garnering player sympathy. And from the looks of things, these are also your “wallet knights”.

#167

Compile a list of now compared to iCBT2 for “improvements” made on the game. I don’t think this game has progressed forward in a positive way since that period until now only introducing detrimental things stemming from the cash shop with tokens, transcendence, gacha. The new ranks and areas completely threw the game widely out of balance too since they didn’t properly have a good structure from the base classes first to build on. They also didn’t even care to bother balancing stat or skill scaling either for future content.

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#168

if u cant even win a debate/argument against the hue, then how are u supposed to fight this hopeless war? with sweet talk and day dreaming?

ofcourse i know whats the context, but man, its a nice hue opportunity there bruh

also, u dont wanna pissed off your paying-customer…

tactfully, john did not.
thankfully, we got new meme~

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#169

I see your point man. I don’t think anyone can “win” against “hue hue hue”. Because it is not an argument, it is an attitude. There is no right ot wrong to attitudes, just effectiveness or not. Also, anything less of joining the mob often results in ad hominem attacks by “hueknights”, which makes the discussion more pointless. My posisition is that not one is really happy about the condition of this game, but I beleived a mature and balace approach is more helpful in moving us foward.

For example:

But I wholeheartedly agree that John’s comment was tackles and unprofessional. I made a post about things like this in the past:

But when I noticed that the GMs were beginning to make some efforts to take actions against exploiters, this is the type of response I get:

PS: I was not the one who flagged your post.

#170

Hold on what did i do now?

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#171

is funny how some players are blaming “hue” knights or whatever when the game itself has kicked the new players that were coming back to play with the reset voucher lol

“Reset Voucher is announced” yayyy
Server pop increase by a little 8%
Oh no server gone wrong showing full 100/100 server closes full LAG
Literally the next day maintenance from IMC
Now forums are giving 505 error
Became stable by a little
Oh no, a command that ha been since the start has been leaked to public
everyone start closing/exploiting/trolling with channel reset
Hours and hours finally they fix it
some banned
Shitty 1 exp tome from IMC that is literally saying to all of us “Fck you”

If IMC is trying to get rid of all their new players coming, they are doing an amazing job

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#172

It’s funny how you guys some how have self deluded yourself to believe you are so oppressed. Then began labeling everyone under the sun.

Most of us believe IMC has messed up.

@verilycache had some decent feedback suggestions in this thread.

Probably should help him get IMC to recognize that thread. Instead of spouting how oppressed you guys are.

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#173

Itos is not oppressed…neglected would be a better term.
Itos is IMC’ed.

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#174

I loved tos since it was presented in g-star 2014, because I missed a lot a game with anime theme, and isometric camera, like RO and TO. However I have to agree with some hueknights that the game is not going very well. At least for me, I get bored very fast because of the lack of things you can do. But even I getting bored sometimes I still play with very low frequency. (500 hrs since march). I dont support the game with money, because of the high prices, and the lack of interest. I think the only ones who can solve the problems of the game is IMC. And the game is not definitely dead, it looks like they launched it before being ready, and they are developing along the time. Just like pokemon go promised trade and battle system but didn’t delivered it until now. I think you should enjoy tos as you can and patientely wait the game be fine. Then you will be able to have more fun.

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#175

Game literally died, an now brought back to life with better graphics.
Updates are still happening, albeit player, population is relatively gone below 500 or so low now.

#176

We played Onigiri for a while after quitting ToS months ago which was made by the same people. They had the same problems too with bugs which prevented us from progressing for weeks until we spammed their forums and only finally got an answer after contacting them on Twitter/Facebook.

http://onigiri.cyberstep.com//forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=8382
http://onigiri.cyberstep.com//forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=8363
http://onigiri.cyberstep.com/info/topic/maintenance/4710

It took them weeks and even after a maintenance they didn’t even fix it until we literally spammed them about it. The Staff/Moderator who responded to our thread that “passed the information” didn’t even do their job.

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#177

Refusing to move on? Just like you right?

I have been lurking on and off for months too, and absolutely see no reason to say anything good about IMC anymore. The game was released in Korea 2015, all the “improvements” you praise are standard MMO features and should be ingame BEFORE launch, not after milking players with founder packs and cash shop.

I suggest you step back, look at other online games and objectively tell us what has IMC done that stands out from other MMOs enough to worth some praise.

All the time they are playing catch up with competitors, and even then progress has been abysmal. Nothing worth to praise for just trying (and failing) to match industry standards. The entire game reeks of 2005, not 2017.

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#178

Why would I move on from it? I get enjoyment from the game.Just like the others,you make assumptions out of thin air.Guess what? I can enjoy the game on some level,still see some issues,and use the forums in a civilized manner.Crazy,I know.

Then just like all of the other hues,I ask: Why on earth are you still here,or playing the game at all? If you are so turned off by the game that you don’t enjoy playing it,or find the company that distasteful,take a break or leave.You won’t actually do it [again,like the others],but it’s what I’d recommend.

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#179

iTOS is also [Resolved], powered by Wolfknights.

#180

Players like you are cancer to the MMO community and the sole reason why Candy Crush exists. Good Day.

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