Oh no I’m not implying that but the clever bots are getting the realistic names banned and basically rendering them unusable for someone who would of wanted to use them. That’s my point here… Compared to other players who are hoarding the names for themselves, friends or profit.
so basically you’re saying we need to manually ban hammer each bot. because so far no company has offered an autocheck system against bots.
See I would assume if your entire account (your team) is banned all names are release. This is my assumption.
They actually…
- can quest
- can repair
- can do dungeon runs
- can use all skills on % health/ timers
… i’m makeing a new list of found selling sites soon and sending it to Julie and Co…
Too bad… the botters wont care much.
Specially the guys who make money with it… trough people who are dumb enough to buy from them. THEN get banned because of weird RMT transactions xD…
THEN complain “WTF My 300 Dollar accoutn got banned! I didn’t do anything wrong”
people stare at the max buy value of 90ish dollars of vip packs from steam
“WHUT IDIDNT DO ANYTHING WRONG!!”
I keep laughing each time i read that xD…
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I’d hope that’s the case but by my understanding of the current system it isn’t… Team names once taken seem locked in and completely gone once they’re used UNLESS said person uses a name change pass.
I know its easy to generate names, I often do small bot scripts for web games that I do back when I was in college when I didn’t have a job 
I don’t understand why they just don’t go after the gold buyer instead of trying to stop the gold seller. It is much easier to attack the side that has so much more to lose.
You can’t beat a bot you can only show him that it is not a good investment to put his resources into your game.
I’m pretty sure that 300 dollar is an exaggeration though. People tends to exaggerate sht.
Never thought of that or maybe block their steam ID and IP. I bet those buyers are not as smart as those botters. Yeah, kill the gold buyers and the gold sellers will die on their own. =))
Block IP won’t work since they just change/mask it. But yea it is much easier to inconvenience someone that has little to no patients.
the bots are not clever LOL…
they are so easy to find and ban.
And how do you know someone is a gold buyer? There is no way of saying that trade transaction in game is linked to real life money transfer, you can only assume and banning someone on assumption is absurd.
Well your entire topic is based on assumption, that those team names are gone forever, but generally in mmo’s a permanent ban releases nickname, since the account is deleted to clear space.
It’s a valid concern though… ToS doesn’t function like a typical MMO on many other aspects so there’s no say it does here.
I can assure you that I would counter every method that you can think of, and I don’t even make bots. The whole nature of botting is that is not possible to eliminate, you can only slow it down.
. . . -sigh- why do you need to tie it to real life money transfer?
Like I have stated before if they keep the transaction record IE they make a record for each transaction.
You can easily trace it. If you sold a item for 100x its average price to a individual there something wrong. It is very easy to see if that transaction is a silver transfer. If you “bought” N silver for X dollars, you need someway to transfer the money.
Go to AH sell Y amount of item to equal N silver. So they sell items for a outrageous price which the gold seller buys. That leaves a trail.
Also for accounts who are banned for being gold seller I wouldn’t mind if they trace back their transaction and ban the gold buyers. Gold selling transaction are 90% of the time very easy to see.
If for example goat horn average about 10,000 silver on AH over 1 month.
Someone sells the 3 goat horn for 20 million silver. That seems like a very fishy transaction and should be flag as silver transferring. Not many people would go farm 20,000 horns to do that one transaction and even if they did. Their price per unit would closely match the price. Even if it is 2x the price it wouldn’t be that suspicious. It is when you see huge sum of silver change hands in a single transaction that goes over a average price per unit.
It is kinda funny that we had a same name XD lol
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How do you see difference between that, and just some guy giving silver to his friends in the same way?
got a simple example, the other day i was checking arde dagger prices, the normal prices are more or less 1-2 million, with a couple at 3 million, but there was one arde dagger being sold at 7,2 millions
That is what the transaction table is for. If you are an actual real transaction your history will show it. It is not a one time ban thing, it is more of a N amount of strikes you are out. I mean there also people who make alts to transfer their bought gold to their main account thinking that somehow launders their gold.
lawkjefoi trade 30 million silver to Mule1.
Mule1 trade 30 million silver to John.
It is SO much easier to destroy the buyers then it is the sellers. If you ban someone who actually has so much time investment into a single account that is actually worth something they are much less likely to do it. I put 700 hours into this account if I buy this gold I have a chance to lose all of it.
How many people do you really lose if you ban gold buyers. Most of the time people who buy gold are one’s that don’t have time to play the game so they need a accelerated path. So the difference between them playing the actual game for a extended period of time is not very likely.
Also if that transaction is illegal, and the team believes it was a honest accident. Just reverse the transaction.
This argument is kind of like how bad cops argue that they should not be recorded or video tape. If you are doing the right thing accordance to the law/TOC then there is no real need to fear.
If that sells. INVESTIGATE THAT.
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If you guys read around the announcement part regarding the report bot function at all, they explained why they did not use the captcha method.
This is by far the best system there is combating bots imho tho, by involving the larger player base to report them. If you are annoyed by bots, help report any that you encounter along your way exploring / grinding on the map. it’s really effective so far, removing those 100-200 bots and spammers wouldn’t be possible without an active player base, so kudos to everyone who has been making great use of the report function, you help make the game better.
They did a super great improvements on daily basis just by the report function.
The clever bots are still detectable:
- Some will use that annoying tele / huge area attack
- every botter that I encounter are either swordsman / cleric based, figured the ranged attack thing makes it harder for them to script the bot.
- spammers will be there regardless of job, so block the ones you see on world chat, and report the ones you managed to encounter.
- the actual real problem are the Silver buyers, some proofs can be seen- it wouldn’t be profitable to bot if there are no customers right? i say IMC have to be more harsh towards the silver buyer, regardless of what excuse they let out, they do help destroy the game-one purchase at a time.
- another problem are players that are actually botting - I’ve seen some Thai players did it, and not to attack any region, but simply stating what i saw.
- Not sure if they did implement it or not, they are planning to implement report function for fishy item prices on the market- so be active.