28/08/2016 - Acordingly with some players, it appear that Murmillo now have support to Rapier and One-Handed Spear, what make Murmillo a good continuation for Shinobi class using any previous class (except for 2 Handsword/2 HandSpear Builds).
I dont had the time to check this information, so for me still a rumor, but if this happened, this would remove almost every bad point of this post.
The original text of the post will be keeped to anyone who want to understand the situation before this happened.
Have a good game.
Hi, as the title sugest I will show you how Rank 8 high damage broke the Shinobi class multibuilds.
Observation: I’m not telling that the new linear build inst very powerfull, or that you cant go with what you like. Well, you can, but your damage will not progress as the linear builds do right now.
Maybe Rune Caster and Templar have similar problems too.
The fact is:
The damage of:
- Rank 8 new classes;
- C2 continuation of rank 7 exclusive classes (Like Dragoon C2), or;
- C3 continuation of Rank 6 exclusive Classes (like Fencer, Doppel);
Are so HIGH right now, that any exception of that builds will be a inferior Build (what means, BIG inferior damage in comparicion).
So, Before rank 8, I already saw:
Corsair > Shinobi. [Most common build, even if I dont like it]
Fencer > Shinobi.
Doppel > Shinobi.
Spear > Shinobi (Cath or Hop)
Tank > Shinobi (Pelt/Rod)
Why people make so different builds?
Because the damage was not so different from one rank to another. The Skills of Shinobi compensed that loss. But now is not worth it.
NOW the new skill of Doppel Zwerchhau begin with damage of 4553 and go to 7926.
Lancer skill Quintain reach 8K.
Fencher skill Attque Au Fer reach 7,5 K.
Murmillo skill Headbutt reach 7.5 K.
Most part of the news skills are around this damage, Not to mention the previous skills that can reach a big damage. Not to mention too, some classes as Doppel got area damage.
Now the path appear to be only with:
Shinobi>Lancer or Shinobi>Murmillo.
THERE IS NO WHERE TO RUN
Want corsair>Shinobi?? Awesome, you are bound to choose Murmillo.
(With this very ugly helmet). See now?
Forget Doppel > Shinobi or Fencer > Shinobi.
This path is very inferior now.
[So, its not a Rank 8 Swordsman exclusive problem with Shinobi]
So, its not a Rank 8 Swordsman exclusive problem with Shinobi, But all the Rank 8 classes from every Class Type (Cleric/Archer), are so powered right now, if you dont choose the top class in the end, will be very inferior, what somehow bound you to choose always a C3, C2 (for Rank 7 Exclusive) or new Class Rank 8.
I believe Rune Caster are having the same problem with some builds now.
Templar too, is just a manager now, forget go to battle unless you take Lancer or Murmillo instead Templar Rank C2.
I dont know if is because maybe Shinobi can copy some of high damage skills, so this will make Shinobi overpowered, what I dont think it is, but that would mean you can only choose shinobi if you invest everything on Bushin no Jutsu and pray that some powerfull skills can be copied, so you dont have to choose Lancer/Murmillo on rank 8.
I dont like Bushin no Jutsu, and before Rank 8 there was no obligation to use it, but now…
I really think Shinobi diserved C2 Circle, even with so much haters telling that this cant be done, because god told in their heads that cant , you know, the game code is not make by C++, LUA or whatever, is made by Titanium right? So this cant happen.
As it was cited by @Talon112 on answers bellow, the best thing to do if you are 2HandedShinobi is take Murmillo on Rank 8, and use only 1 Handedsword on PVP.
My point with this post was exactly show how this Rank 8 classes put Shinobi>Doppel in disadvantage, but yes, you can do that, since Doppel 1 still work with any weapon.