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Shield Lob / Throw Spear has been fixed

And when you shoot all the arrows I’m your quiver you have to get more arrows before you can continue shooting… except you don’t have to in this game. It’s a fantasy game lol. Tell me how many bullets come in each magazine for the Schwarzenegger Reiter guns? Because this game is meant to be totally realistic like our world is.

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This was never a problem. It was meant to be a balance to weigh against overpowered melee classes having a ranged attack, but being slightly less OP makes everyone QQ so I guess they changed it to make people leave them alone.

In case it wasn’t obvious from my posts, I’d prefer to have more realism than the game has at the moment. Yes, having archers buy actual arrows would be on that list as well. It may not be happening, but that doesn’t mean I can’t voice my opinion, now does it?

what’s with the realism, did the devs forget; magic.

Shield lob + Ice wall combo should do lot of damage… Its more like cyro party support skill… That what dev said in blog long time ago…

If you were to take Peltasta to any circle above 1, your major source of damage would still come from Umbo Blow or Rim Blow in combination with High Guard’s Attributes. These 2 skills have a 12 second cooldown each and can be used multiple times, whereas Shield Lob’s damage is weak in comparison and has a 54 second cooldown, not to mention after you throw the shield your defense is still reduced until you pick up the shield, which is a “side effect” of using the skill. Still wouldn’t put points in it even after the change.

Hoplite’s spear throw on the other hand, the Bound attribute actually binds enemies in place for 7+ seconds, which is useful and the damage is much better too, despite having your attack reduced until you pick up the spear. That’s something that might be worth putting points into.

Are we talking about realism in my game about mythical beasts and magic? I dunno, Clerics are very realistic with their DDR squares and instantly-made man sized wooden statues.

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Melee classes are supposed to be stronger then ranged classes in pvp games. If they were the same strength then no one would play melee.

Are you telling me that you cant cast magic on the floor or carve statues instantly ooooor summon demons/ zombies. LAWL you fail at real life.

@Soukyuu So lets add realism to this game step 1 Delete cleric and mage branch step 2 delete all monsters, gods , etc

Now we have swordsman archers and wildlife YAY!

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No one said you can’t voice your opinion so calm down lol. I was simply challenging your argument in that the game should be more realistic, in fact I didn’t use my opinions on the matter. I just (sarcastically) brought up other examples of how the game is unrealistic. Realism isn’t the only thing that may make think twice about using the skill. As mentioned before, the skill had too much of a possible loss in it that people thought twice in even getting it.

You said you wish they kept the realism, well I ask why should they keep the realism with swordies and not with any of the other 3 branches? This type of game isn’t the optimal platform for being realistic. Realistically, blood would be gushing out of Kepas and Vubbes when he hack them mercilessly to death and we wouldn’t be carrying around dozens of weapons and armors and pots and other stuff in some kind of invisible magic satchel. And since when did killing random living things drop money from their insides? lol

What are u talking about?

Ftfy :wink:

@harimaku I think he rushed the message, I don’t think it was adressed to you xD (I may be totally wrong there è_é)

My bad wrong person adjusted it

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Why don’t I just go outside and stab some deer with my kitchen knife? Then again, nvm, I’m allergic to the sun. And Deer. And the outside. Good thing I have -Realistic- ToS, though!

Dammit i just realized were going for realism so we need to die in 1-3 stabs/arrows sooo that makes pretty much and swordsman without a shield useless and bows can’t keep up with guns.

So now we have a Schwarzer Reiter on foot (because the mount is fantasy unless we insert a horse) and maybe a swordsman with a shield but thats even iffy. So lets call it Tree of Schwarzer Reiter.

Schwarze new OP class. Challenge is affording enough arrows and finding enough things to shoot to qualify for Schwarze school.

And THEN you gotta pay tuition for the classes until you actually learn the schwarze skills. THEN you gotta buy a horse or a really big dog to be mounted. THEN you gotta get your Conceal Carry license. It’s like 50 bucks or so , at least in my city. And you can’t forget the ammo. What is real life?

O GOD THE REALISM im gonna have schwarze university loans for the rest of my life.

… O no if they add lodging… the mortgages

Don’t worry, we will live in barracks and they are paid for by the taxpayers dollars. I’m more worried about the interest on student loans for mages. I heard Hogwarts is really expensive, even for a Ivy League school.

realism mages can only pull cards out of their sleeves and rabbits out of their hats bad at combat.

Lol real life sucks for mages.