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Scout 145 dungeon full STR

We see a lot of hate and name calling outside of META.
I am one of these people who wanted to see by themselves how bad the and useless str was.
Since it was impossible to find anywhere on forum how bad is str for scout farmer I decided to test it.

This is not my best run but it’s still ok.

Some people have rogue 1 2 3 so this is the main workaround waiting str revamp and possibly troll monsters with insane block like rank 8 monsters for magical.

Even a full spr archer can solo this dg at level 256.
When we talk about scout c3 to farm dg 145, we think about a low level char.

So unless you have a scout around level 180 full STR, any vídeo with rank 7 char will be useless since anyone with stats or not can solo this dg with only gears and attributes.

You could see 3 guides and most people with level cap or almost full dex + 315 bow transcend shitting on any str (even if gems rework and transcend ruined everything including the value of lifeline).
If you want to be rude, just call the others end game +315 bow highly transcend on their threads too.
My khasti is transcend 1 so I won’t do more scouts 3.

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so stroong!! can you give us screen cap of your stats and weapon?

DEX>STR end of story unless you are a rogue.

Was answered here:

I was not rude I only pointed how useless was your statement based on an almost rank 8 char when compared with a low level one.

Can you please list out your gear details, your skill attribute level, and your cards?

i already highlighted why STR got beaten badly by DEX in the other thread.

comparing both 176 Archers, their damage of Full STR and Full DEX archer is just the same. a 3-4k White damage vs 3-4k Crit damage.

But the timer for clearing is not even near. 30++ mins for STR while 20mins more or less for DEX.

why? because it’s not about the damage, it’s about survival. as a 176 STR archer, can you facetank 6-8 mobs while spamming split shot? NO. you’d die like a pancake falling down on the ground. that’s the most simpliest reason.

While STR build people tends to play safe, DEX builds are mostly facetanking physical mobs while spamming splitshots. evasion is at its greatest here. saving you more hp pots from dodging attacks.

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Our Khasti is bare +5 with NPC gears.

damage comparisons aside.
with the defense buff of 10% per rank now.
its not hard at all to be getting hit for 1s w/ asperion buff as a 176 in the 145 dungeon now unless you’re one of those still clinging onto caprisun gear users

Since halloween events and 4x tomes xp 1day duration I leveled up my 8 alt to 240+, I had beforehand good items.


Even if I tried to make a 176 scout + same items some people would still argue at some others reasons randomly.
What use for since the purpose was only to see clear time that some people didn’t even check here 15.30 that was not my best.

If I forgot to add I’m archer 1 ranger 2 scout 3 rogue 1, I have a lot of cards to level up that go for my musketeer mainly and murmillo and this scout lastly + 200 blessed shards unused.

Actually been thinking about this for a while now, since there is a crit rate cap for the 145 mobs… some of your DEX points (once you hit 80% crit rate at 145) can go to STR making your dmg much higher. But again it depends on your equips ,weapons and gem. IMO some DEX points will be wasted if you pass the crit rate as a dedicated 145 farmer. (and then there is the EVA topic of course)

It’ll be good to know how much crit rate is enough to crit 80% or 70% at the 145 dungeon. Haven’t seen any post/comments regarding this since most went full dex build.

I prefer farm the 130 for both possible cards and low chance petamion. I got already 10+ petamions.

Since when have you been farming 130? That’s alot of petas, how long is the clear time?

Very very very fast but need 3 more gems 1 for isbality and 2 more for didel tower shield to be at my best. I started since may with my army of alts xD
Only one does full run and others rush boss.

I believe it’s about time (but may be too late since they are changing the map lvls) to improve the scout 145 farm build (or 130) by setting the advisable crit rate. Most like it’ll still be full dex til 170ish

Reach X amount of crit rate by stat-ing full DEX first, you want to clear it faster? Level up a bit and place the new stats acquired to STR.

Scout3 145/130 full run slave V2.0 lul

Hoping someone can do the math for us :slight_smile:

the idea of being capable for farming is there, you have your point. nothing to argue about it.

the thing is, you were to spend on them just to farm. and even transcend its gear. which is kind of confusing. you make a toon to farm, but you invest on it? if its for the long run why not? but as what you’ve shown. the clear time, and with all those gears. you’ve place yourself in a bad spot to compare STR with DEX farmers.

This is a living proof. and no one can’t deny it. and we are still doing it most of the case.

again, some of us already understand and had been shed with light about this fact.

We don’t need to reach or spend for our toon farmers. that’s just a BIG WASTE. given the moment we reach Scout3 we’re all ready to go. and no need to get R7 or whatever. no Gems for the bows. no fancy headgears.

thats about it.

When you have a khasti + level 6 gems x3 you are tempted to create more scounts assuming it’s future proof.
I also already had the items from others archers or swordman so they were not especially for the scout they just are used by all my alts.

You have people who get 3 main fletchers or doppels or whatever.

Since I made a transcend stage 1, I know I won’t make tons of scouts farming because that weapon is untradable.

He got most of his levels from halloween and the items he uses are perma shared with others alts lol.

We know nobody will try a 176 full str naked no attributes then add again all the items and lot of attributes + afk 145 unless they have a specific rank 8 build in mind.

I only mean, in the long run people will get these items by luck, farm, old timers with 5 8 channels to farm battle bracelet a long time ago …

Critical chance will get lower with more levels you get.
For 80% critical chance at level 180 you will need around 345+50=395 critical rate(that 50 is critical resistence from monsters). When you hit level 200, that critical chance drops to 72,5% and when your hit 210 you will have only 69%.

And trust me, with 2x exp from dungeons now, you will hit 210 quite fast.

Hmm interesting, I didn’t know that you lose some critical chance as you level up? Is this because of the high gap between you and the mob levels? Or what?

There is no relation with the gap, but to not make critical rate an estationary stat at all.

Good to know, can you give an idea on how much crit rate is needed for 80% critical chance at around level 240 or 290 (lol Saalus and 290 rush levels).