The silver lining could be that they are actually looking at SR’s now.
Wow I just took archer 2 last night after waiting 3 days trying to figure out what class works best for SR2 and then this happens? How many hours ive spent doing “Researcher” and PMing people and then the one thing that makes our class a single target machine (Running shot and auto attacks) is going to go away?
Just…Shamwow.
So if I actually want to do anything practical with this toon I should just give up and do the cookie cutter Musketeer build then. What a shame. I really hope once IMC fixes the tens of thousands of problems it has with the actual game they can really look at some of these classes and decide what they actually want them to do. Because I really don’t see how autoattacking while using retreat shot is broken, when we have fletcher wagushi running around.
As Ive said earlier if you took QS3 (You should have but most people picked up Ranger 3, heh look how good they look now huh.) you can lay down your pavaise staggered and make a wall to run into anywhere.
The only thing that Archer2 brings to the table for a mounted class is the fact that the 25% crit rate saves stat points later on in the game when the 25% gets to be really big factor. Other than that archer 2 offers not a whole lot. Its really for min maxing and that’s all otherwise rogues sneak hit will prolly last up until imc releases new content of witch the flat chace will lose out to the increased critical rate.
As far as other builds wagushi is cool but remember the gearing situation as its awkward, If your skipping archer 2 then its not as bad.
Choosing between A2 and Rog1 is really up to you.
I will choose A2 with this kind of build A2>QS3>SR2 since most of the time I am mobility.
But if I will build A>R>Sa2>Sc>Ro>Cannon, then I will definitely choose Rogue over Archer2, as it synergize most of the core skills.
25% is really big number, how big it is? well …
PURE STR,
WITH CRIT GEARS. still manage to have decent Crit Rate
Even if you do full dex you can be near that dmg with kneeling give or take 300 -400 pa just means more dodge
So you finally killed Schwarzer reiter. Good Job.
The only reason to go with a QS build was to stack autos on with retreat shot for more damage, as well as slow down your walking speed so that you could attack more mobs. With fletchers untouched and rank 7 classes doing 400% modifiers this class is almost as dead as falconer, and even falconer has uses with circling and hanging shot shenanigans.
@STAFF_J @STAFF_Ines @STAFF_Max @STAFF_John @STAFF_Ethan Or whoever is running the show here, we need some explanation on what’s becoming of this class and hackapell to come, What if I don’t get Schwarzer because of this new “bug” fix only to find out hackapell requires Schwarzer later because its a hidden class or has a class requirement or something? Also Hackapell is expected to be a melee class instead of a missle based one…witch is a slap to the face for anyone who went ranger 3 for steady aim buff only to find out that your rank 8 is going to have nothing to do with the previous 3 circles of work put into it.
Im not whining about any fixes or changes if they were intended for the vision of the class, but an explanation for a “mobile” class to have 3 channeling skills and another skill that allows you to fire your gun while moving, doesn’t allow you to fire your gun while moving. Same with hackapell.
Or if I need to contact someone somewhere else then id me more than happy to do so, if that’s the case please inform me. Please and thank you.
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Hmm. Well. Ouch. Good thing I didn’t get my Schwarzer Reiter started on QS yet.
So how shall we build now, if QS3 builds just got walloped? I guess I wanted a Wugu build anyway, but everything after Circle 1 requires dismount, so… blah. Hunter, Sapper, Falconer, Cannoneer, and Musketeer are out (obviously). Rogue offers just one critical buff. I guess Fletcher C1 can be used while mounted, but… eh.
Archer C2 -> Ranger C1 -> Wugu C1 -> ??? -> Reiter C2?
I guess Wugu C2, Rogue C1, or Fletcher C1 could fit in there, but none are really ideal…
You do realize that not everything that happens in kTOS will be implemented here in iTOS. And as they stated at some point through the game development that they would change the gameplay sligthly, so that the game were better “suited” to the western audience
Creating two separate versions with the same content is easier said than done. You have to design your encounters around the tools players will have, and how they will approach each problem. This is also why you don’t see major combat revamps very often – it requires changing all the previous content to suit. Balancing everything twice is especially onerous. They may try placing different changes in different regions, but the long-term expectation will likely be that the better-received changes will make the jump.
The changes they will make for the Western audience are things like XP rate, resets, inventory systems, and the like. Those systems are isolated and portable. Combat balance is neither.
Yea but look at that particular changelog, it contains the ever so asked for “Fix” for swordsman DPS in the 30% extra STR damage. Players have been BEGGING For it for a long time, also ground skills that stay on the ground through rounds in battle league? Yea im sure that wont make its way here either.
Again I DONT CARE THAT THEY MADE THE CHANGES.
What I would LIKE is an explanation on if hackapell is going to require Schwarzer as a requirement, and how hackapell is going to work because its a melee class now. Also why a “Mobility class” Has 3 channeling skills and has a skill that lets you fire both your crossbow and pistol at the SAME time (Wild Shot) but doesn’t let you do that when using another skill. Because im not wasting my time leveling a toon when I can go for a Different build that might help me more.Not to mention the fact that manammana and didel are ridiculously expensive to get//random.
To stay on topic lets put it this way then, With the changes that may//may not come, have rank 7 become superior or is SR still viable?
Ok, but im thinking about other classes, SR specifically since we are in SR thread, so it requires mobility. I don’t have problem investing in dex, but STR gives so much bonus in the end.
Punkd already test this one, can any SR to confirm it again?
Slow-walking while autoattacking is the only way to utilize 60%-70% of this skill and they removed it. What’s wrong with firing an arrow and shooting with gun?!
Like I said, the SR nerf might not come to iToS, this was just posted
Actually turns out we haven’t had the emote + retreat shot changes yet. I’ve finally gotten it to work apparently.
so emote + RS still works on us,
I talked to one SR here, and using RS + auto attack still works in our iTOS?
That is correct, we can still use both emote + retreat shot and running shot + retreat shot. The question is whether we’ll get the ktos changes. IMC says we’re going to have different class balances than ktos but emote/retreat and running/retreat imo is more of a “skill fix” to as intended rather than a balance.
Also I’ve tested the total shots from emote + retreat and just a normal retreat shot and they both output the same amount of shots contrary to the rumors.
I’d really like to know as well because SR is the class i really want to play. Even if they do get the skill fixes the class is broken. Its a high mobility class with essentially only channeling skills? That doesn’t sound right to me. I really wish a dev would come in and give us an idea of what this class is supposed to be other then a mounted gunner(the whole reason i want to play it).
Let’s just hope they ain’t nerfing this class now. I’m finally going to turn SR soon so yeah …
I’m gonna make an SR2 for the sole purpose of lepusbhnny farming for a Magic Arrow gem. Since they clump up with absurd amounts of hp, my best available option will be wugu2 to apply poison dots on 5 of them at once.
Ebola AIDS rider a2 r1 wugu2 sr2 is go
I was thinking about combining Wugu and SR also, albeit my build is different and sadly can only take one rank in SR due to going Wugu2 or vice versa. Still in that dilemma lol
What? You get 2ranks wugu 2ranks Schwarz no problem