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Schwarzer Reiter Questions

Hey guys, have a couple of questions about SR, especially with the upcoming Limacon changes, to help determine if QS3 is really inferior to R3 now.

I understand that with the upcoming changes to Limacon, Running Shot will be considered obsolete due to the fact that it does not stack with the new Limacon.

a.) Are we able to switch between the two freely? e.g. Limacon -> clear mobs -> Running Shot -> hit boss

b.) How well does A2-QS3-SR3 do on WB cubing (do they even come close to fletcher builds?), also, I know A2-R3-SR3 will definitely be superior in ET but how big of a difference will there be between the two builds in these 2 aspects?

c.) is Running Shot outclassed by Limacon in terms of DPS contributed?

d.) Will the new Cafrisun and Grand Cross be enough to narrow any gap that exists between the 2 builds?

I guess basically what I am asking is if it is worth it to take QS3 in an attempt to do well in both WB (single target) and ET (multi target) or is the synergy between Steady Aim’s 20% damage buff + the fact that Limacon’s attribute damage will apply to the ranger skill rotation too strong?

I’m still quite new to the game (A1-Q3 atm), was going down the SR path because i’ve heard that it does decently well field/dungeon/mission farming while still remaining competitive in late game content. QS3 was obviously stronger before I knew about the change but now i’m in a dilemma again T_T

Running shot still better than New Limacon a lot if attack only 1 target. But New Limacon will help you if you are not QS. that why it’s suit for Ranger build.(A2R3SR3)

Running shot…
Base+(Base2) none setup
Base+(Base
4) full setup

Limacon LV15 100% attribute
(Base+1385)*2 with Spread dmg

If you are QS+SR. you don’t need Limacon. You can use 15 point to other skill. (or use Limacon for Spread dmg while farm)

Ranger+SR stronger than QS+SR in ET/farm ofc.
But QS has stun,cc, shield… and better boss fight.

They are work in different way. Almost total different class.

Running shot still shits all over limacon. Doesnt add extra line nor does it increase % dmg. (lvl8 with cleric).

and +10 to everything thedojin said.

qs3+sr3 is still hella viable just played a bit differently (has more single target long-term dmg in its arenal IMO) for bosses.

A.) Yes. As they are different buffs, you can alternate which one you want to use. (Of course, you still need to take into account their cooldowns.)

B.) No idea.

C.) It depends. Limacon has an enhance attribute iirc, and Running shot relies on gear for levels.

D.) The Manahas set probably wouldn’t make that big of a difference once you get high enhancement rate (anvil, whatever you want to call it) on weapon along with transendence stats.

Not sure if you already knew this, but you can proc extra line attacks such as Sacrament, Enchant fire and Cafrisun. That’s a nice plus for limacon. Of course, the extra attack speed from running shot alone completely outclasses Limacon