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Say Yes to job reset

Well when a ‘balance patch’ changes my main character. I’ll just live with it and adapt to the changes. Unless you tell me you can’t adapt then it is another problem altogether.

If the class needs to be balanced it means it is either too strong or too weak and will need to be brought in-line with the rest of the classes.

Really? Where do you pull the data from to make a statement like that?

where from?i play the game maybe and look at people builds.not so hard to do.
as for adapt , lets say you was good at dps on your build now after balance you don’t good at dps any more. yuo not good as suport or tank as well. you can adapt all you want but you not will be wanted any more.that is a problem.

Where did you hear that? In dungeons it doesnt matter at all.

Maybe we are playing a different game then, that would explain.
There are certainly many who play one of the ‘top builds’, but there are also many others who play different builds.

The problem is the sample size. If I look at 20 clerics and 18 of them are cleric1->priest3 it doesn’t mean a majority of the players plays that build.

On average a server has 5k players and if a base class has 25% population each it will take at least 1k+ clicks into those players’ character info to get an accurate measurement to support your ‘majority’ claim.

It just means that you need to find a team that can support your ‘new balanced build’. Builds don’t make a player being wanted in parties, it is their character, playstyle and attitude that makes players being sought after.

then please show it to me and prove me wrong

their character and playstyle is the Build. or you think people go “he got a cute face lets take him”?
attitude is a thing you cant know befor you take him.

Dungeons of level 135 and above are no challenge. You can easily find out by yourself that you don’t need specific combinations of classes, or specific builds.

Further more, dungeons that low level can be done via the party search as well.

Does that look like a popular build to you?

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Not really. 2 players can have the same build but playstyle is totally different. Your main take is that if:

Player A goes for Build XYZ but it is not efficient as build XYA then it is useless to you.

It is far from that. XYZ can fit right into a party that needs Z class but already has class A from another player in the team. This is how great teams are formed, by supporting each others’ weaknesses and complimenting everyone elses strengths. No build is useless, it is just that player have not found a group that needs him/her.

highlander c3 + suport class is popular.
135 and above dungeons need top dps so you do it in normal time,15-30min. doing it longer is loseing exp and silver.

yes .you are not wrong here.

No peltasta and you’re not a dragoon?

REROLL SON.

why? what he build is ok its not top 2 build but top 3.

bump.
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There is a huge buzz about how swordsmans are usually only brought for swashbuckling on peltasta. If you think a swordsman build without peltasta is popular then you must be playing a different game.

or you .swordsmans are not only swashbuckling on peltasta

Right, tell that to the rest of the community that thinks if a swordsman doesn’t take peltasta it might as well be replaced for any other dps class. I don’t like it, I think it should be changed but that is what is happening currently.

well they think so because they want aoe.

Point is his build isn’t popular as the popular swordsman builds take peltasta. Would class resets fix this? No. The root of the problem still remains, in pve everyone wants a swordsman with at least c1 peltasta, rarely do they want otherwise.

yes if its as this, and sadly its so to a point, he can reset to peltasta c1 and lvl from there .

Allowing swordsman players to swap to peltasta does not fix the community enforced requirement for peltasta to be in your build. All you have done by implementing resets is cater to the problem, enabled it, when in reality it should be fixed. An added byproduct being less commitment to your choices, when in an ideal environment all choices should be at least relevant.