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Sapper's Broom Trap

Is this the only skill worth getting?

Is Sapper C2 enough? Is the damage difference of Sapper C2 and C3 very big? I was planning to go Sapper2 - Wugushi2.

Does this skill scale well end game? Thanks.

It’s enough. Don’t go Sapper c3 if you’re already planning on Wugu c2.

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Enough for end game like ET? Is Sapper2-Wugushi2 better than Sapper3-Scout/Rogue?

sapper c2 is all you need if you want sapper. Attribute broom trap makes it faster and sronger so buff that up.

combining broom trap and throw gu pot, sapper2 and wugu2 synergizes the best if your goal is damage over time/aoe, its great at clearing mobs.

even if you wanna go rogue/scout so you can recast broom trap, still just take sapper to c2

but as far as the other sapper skills ehh they’re alright. broom trap already starts to fall off later on since it cant hit flying mobs but i still use it every time. you gotta be strategic to make detonate traps and stock stockades really useful. claymore, collar bomb, punji strike, are ok… when we are comparing sapper to the other archer ranks then yes broom trap is really the only useful skill.

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Haven’t reached ET. At this point, if you’re asking for ET, you might be better off watching the kToS videos.

The reason why I said Sapper 2 is enough is this: are you willing to waste one whole rank just for that extra 5 levels of Broom Trap? All of the other skills are so situational/unreliable that they’re hardly ever used.

With Wugu 2, you get another AoE skill and poison. Sapper 3 - Rogue could be better, but keep in mind that Capture has a cd of 3 mins and the skill vanishes upon map changes.

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Oh God. I didn’t know that about capture. Rogue is off the list then. Which would be better at rank 7 if I’ll go Sapper2 - Wugushi2? Cannoneer or Musketeer?

I have another char that has this build. Archer2 - Ranger3 - Falconer - Cannoneer/Musketeer. It’s still at rank 6 atm. If this chooses Cannoneer, then my Sapper Wugu would be a Musketeer. I don’t know which combination is better though.

I’ve not reached Rank 7 myself, mainly due to Sapper 3 regrets, but someone on the forums said that if you’re planning on using Musk as your single target DPS savior (for the same build as Sap2-Wugu2), not to. It won’t be a savior, just an extra single-target DPS class you add on to an AoE build.

Based on that, I’d say Cannon for Sap 2-Wugu 2 build and Musk for the other. However, Circling is good for Cannon, so I hear.

prays that one of the R7 people replies to this thread instead of just one nubby R6

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Sapper 3 is really that bad? Can you help me with the skills of Sapper2? I’m not familiar on what skills to max.

I’ll focus on my alt first before I make them both to rank 7 so I can decide clearly.

Perhaps it’s just me, but Sapper 3 just gave me a Lv 10 Broom Trap and nothing else. Collar Bomb is too unreliable, Spike Shooter’s damage is too low (if the boss is not weak to Pierce damage) for the cost, and I rarely use any of the other traps due to how situational they are. It seems a waste when I could’ve gone Rogue for Capture + Sneak Hit or Scout for stealth and another damaging skill that doesn’t cost money.

Sapper 2 skills;

The must-haves: Lv 5 Broom Trap, Lv 1 Conceal and Detonate.

Stockades - Anything from 8-10. This is because Stockades has quite high damage for no cost and would be the skill used when you’re running away from the mob. Just dump a few and run around while waiting for the pot’s cd to finish. It’s also good for a one-time damage before Detonating it. Again, the only cost-less damaging skill you’ll have.

Punji Stakes: This really situational. Use if you need a last line of defense when you’re going to farm with Kneeling Shot, or if you’re in GvG and need some positioning help. Some, since it takes too long to set up. Place 1 or 2 points into it if you have leftover skill points or if you really need it.

Claymore: Same as Stockades, place around 8-10 points into it. I’ve rarely used it since I frequently get skill freeze and Claymore gives the game 2 chances to freeze you - when you set it up and when you activate it. It’s quite good damage, if you’re willing to risk the lag. Some people have also said that it’s not worth maxing due to poor damage scaling.

Conceal: Only used in PvP. There’s little point in putting more than 1 point into it since most of your traps won’t last longer than 1 minute and your traps would be noticed the moment damage is done while the traps would be revealed if damaged.

Detonate: Only 1 point since you have to be real close to your traps to detonate them. Broom Trap’s ‘Detonate’ hitbox is only the stick so it’s not as great a combo as it could’ve been.

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I went c2 archer c2 Sapper and c2 wugushi and I will probably go cannoneer if you think about it the only problem of wugu- trapper is that their aoe dont hit flying type but with shutdown you can bring them to the ground , and broom trap spread wugong gu :o

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Thanks for the replies guys. Wish me luck on my A2-S2-W2. :slight_smile:

Have you actually seen shot down work for these skills?

I’ve tested shot down with thr scout ability flare which is a ground ability and the shot down flying mob did not take damage from flare

I test my shotdown with my broom trap it didn’t work.
now shotdown only immobilize some flying enemies and make cannon shot do full dmg

Shootdown only works for Cannon Shot? I might have to rethink some builds.

if you plan take wugushi, plan at least 2 circles or not at all

I was planning to make A2-S2-W2-Musk

wait. so shootdown doesnt make them ground target? so after shootdown, broom trap still wont hit the enemies? that seem disappointing

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If that’s not a bug, then Cannoneer dont have synergy with Sapper. Even with Wugushi.