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Roxona Plate Set vs. Roxona Leather Set [Video] + 1100 Evasion Bonus Test

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I was rank 2 a while ago until i got matchup against channel crush abuser YugiMori 4 times in a row. Where is your full dex cant pvp now?

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You need itemization to tank DT. Im tanking them for free DOV? those Warlock just melt like butter. Full dex is viable in PVP. Con stat is not the only way to get high HP. Awakening, headgear, accessory, blut card and that card that gives 1.6k HP for lvl 10 forgot the exact name.

Anyway full dex is viable so does high evasion chars. In PVE as the original topic implies 1.1k dodge seems enough to dodge most of the hits thats the whole point.

I am talking about Path of Exile, the elemental resistance is capped, note that is just an example i am giving, if ToS where to move in that direction with the development, i would guess gear evasion or evasion modifiers from skills would break the current cap.

Again, it is just an example i am using and we are not sure if IMC would do something like that, and i actually think it is better not, or it would cause more issues in the long run.

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If you look carefully with shade set you are losing 212 physical defense for a gain for 280 evasion. 212 def is a lot comparing to 280 evasion. So in a way this is a handicap toward leather set. Even with 3 mobs low def and high evasion still do better. So yes Im actually giving plate more advantage here in this comparison and high evasion still work better.

Yeah, but when a hit land you will see the difference, as i said before, test it against a monster that use skills like blue spions (spiral shot) or another that can use multishot (i don’t remember if there is any after Lv. 220).

Another thing i thought for consideration here is the use of shield with the plate set, if the build have high STR i wonder if that would affect block rate. Then again, it is a thing that is probably capped around the same value as evasion or less.

Not many people use sheild + x bow though. Most of them went with manamana as an off hand.

Indeed, but as for a test in survivability i think it is a thing to consider, specially wugushis, that shield with poison damage could be a thing later on if IMC ever balance the wugu skills properly.

Ah too bad I dont play str archer or wugu so i cant really test that sorry.
If i am to play str build that plate archer would have been long dead lol.

xbow+shield is a quarrel shooter setup, pretty strong against other archers.

Hm I’ll have to check in with my QS3 friend about this. He’s currently use GDC and manamana though. Not sure if he switches to sheild in pvp.

well he should, quarrel shooter has shield mastery that increases block chance to 70-80% against missiles, its pretty daamn strong.
manamana is more of a pve thing than it is pvp.

Yeah it us pretty strong lol :slight_smile: Ah I can’t wait for 330 tired of assuming stuff and just want the real deal.

The Plan A&B have only about 200def difference.
Why that hurt between A&B is about 1300HP so much difference?

I have to warn people that this set comparison is bad and unfair.

A plate armor user should use Aspersion buff from pardoner shop.

Character status screenshot from before buff:

My equips? Just Superior Royal Guard Armor and Royal Guard Pants.
Both are Lv220 plate equips without any upgrades.

You see my budget equips completely blow Shade dancer set totally in physical defense. Maybe that’s why the OP doesn’t include Aspersion buff in her set comparison (Shade Dancer with no upgrades would only get around 300-360 Physical Def with Lv 17 Aspersion). :smile_cat:

Okay, we already covered about why Aspersion buff matters as a plate armor user. Now I will talk about ToS evasion formula and why Roxona plate armor set with 826 Evasion is at huge disadvantage in this comparison.

This is evasion formula from the detailed guide of ToS mechanics (https://github.com/vyne1/tos-mechanics):

By being curious I am, I put the OP’s evasion using Roxona plate set in my spreadsheet calculation:

Oh! No wonder OP’s survivability is kinda crap when she wears the roxona set!
She only got 55% evasion with Roxona plate set against Green Minos Archer.

Compared with her flying 1106 evasion with Shade set; which translates to:

80% evasion cap!

It’s no wonder those disadvantages accumulated and made the pitiful Roxona plate set looks like total crap FOR HER STAT BUILD.

So what is the ideal evasion for 80% evasion for both plate and leather armor users against this test subject aka Mr. Green Minos Archer?

You need 1021 evasion for 80% evasion against Mr. Green Minos Archer!

So which one is the best? plate armor or leather armor?
I’d say it depends on your stat build and equips.

You know you only need 1034 evasion vs Red Ticen in Maven Abbys (which has 406 accuracy; one of the highest ingame).

Basically if you are high STR and low DEX, you could increase your evasion to 1034 with:
Shade set, Superior Bandit Boots, Ellaganos cards, and green gems on your boots.
Or, you could, you know, just wear a highly upgraded plate armor + aspersion buff to mitigate the physical damage altogether.

While if you are high DEX and low STR, you should be able to get to 1034 evasion with:
Superior Royal Guard set/ Virtov set/ Grynas set, Superior Greytis/Korvos Greaves.

After reaching 1034 evasion, you can focus at increasing other stats (AOE ratio from Vubbes gloves, movement speed from Superior Greytis, or high defense plate armor) by going hybrid plate/leather.

Of course, Lolopanther equips would be ideal, but I doubt majority could get it at our current situation. Hopefully after rank 8 patch, it will be more accessible to casual players.

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I didn’t even wear Virtov set in the video lol.
It was Shade Set in the video.
This is my current set.
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shade set you are losing 212 physical defense for a gain for 280 evasion. 212 def is a lot comparing to 280 evasion. So in a way this is a handicap toward leather set. Even with 3 mobs low def and high evasion still do better. So yes Im actually giving plate more advantage here in this comparison and high evasion still work better.
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again Im speaking from experience, you might find it different with plate since you are high str. but around 900+ evasion everything is easy.