Rest In Peace DEX STAT

[Pinata44]

They should just give back DEX accuracy and add a cast reduction.

Plus: Removing SPR from the game and creating a new Status LUK. With will help you refining itens, having a better chance of drop and critical rate.

[soldatazur]

Because it is your choice. Don’t ask me that kind of question when I’m the one running a Thauma3 or a Cleric3 lol. It’s all about what you want to do on ToS. As long as Scout3 is viable I don’t really get what’s the problem. But I see here you are a common build follower, end of debate.

In the current state other c3 circles simply offers much more.

Like Sadhu3 / Hunter3… ?

[atari]

Just accept it

No, thank you.

I won’t response to this thread again im just out of arguments and cannot accept opinions different from my own

nerf

[SlyGoat]

And im not the one doomsaying a class that was changed in a TEST SERVER, it havent even hit final release and you’re already trying to protect your 1 button mode bad.

Test server is going live already FYI. And if you still think ‘doomsaying’ against IMC and ToS has never proven correct in the past - hahahahahahaha.

Which is most braindead to you?
Mash 1 button nonstop
Versitale build that makes use of more skills than just 1.

You can have your “hur hur” back,

I don’t think either one is more braindead, there’s nothing difficult about it either way. The only thing you could potential call difficult in ToS is maximizing DPS in difficult world bosses while dodging knockbacks and not dying. Everything else is just a gear check. You’re the only one that actually finds one simple build more braindead than another. Did you really miss the fact that I was mocking you? Now I just feel sad for you.

Talking about absurd arguments. Do you honestly think that skill with a combined damage output near lv10 headshot which you can use w/o musket should be spammable?

All you can do is strawman. I don’t give a ■■■■ if 5-overheat Split Arrow does 100,000% damage.

And you are the one having comprehension problems, because I explained that the most popular AA build got nerfed. They’ll need to use more skills now, I guess.

No they won’t. They will use exactly as many skills as they did before, or they’ll simply stop existing if they’re too weak (which they won’t be because of DEX). You’re still making a balance argument rather than a concept argument because, again, you don’t have a real argument against the concept of 0 CD skills. All you have are strawmans.

It should be narrow. Wugu/Fletcher/Ele have true AoEs, but they are weaker and/or placed on the ground/need to be casted.

Scout was a niche class from the beginning.

It filled a niche, now it doesn’t. The niche was sustained multi-target DPS, useful for soloing dungeons or farming fields, bad for party grinding and boss fights. Now it will just be another burst class with no niche. You’re just fundamentally not understanding the purpose of divergent builds. You’ve still not laid out a single reason why Split Arrow should be changed. It’s completely arbitrary and does nothing but limit build options further and create more redundancy.

Let’s say for sake of argument that Split Arrow becomes the best skill in all of Archer, it totally shits on anything Fletcher can do, it wipes out groups of mobs immediately. Why the ■■■■ would anyone play a Fletcher now when there’s another class that just does the same thing better? And is Scout a better designed class for it? It’s still totally reliant on one skill, just now that skill is a Fletcher replacement instead of something unique.

Flag me some more you spastic child.

[Sensate]

I’ll let the ktos god players decide how this patch is.

[Ginbei]

Whatever flaots your boat, going from protecting your 0cd to trolling, aslong as youre happy i guess

And obviously 1 button mode is more braindead than having have a numerous ammount of skills, its like saying playing piano with only 1 button is just as good as a complete piano.

Mocking? im not even mad, joining threads like this is a waste of time because there are people that always will try and bend words to their advantage at all costs, doesnt matter if hes right/wrong, just needs that feeling of being superior.

If people arent mentally prepared such behaviors, i pity those people even more.

[SlyGoat]

And obviously 1 button mode is more braindead than having have a numerous ammount of skills, its like saying playing piano with only 1 button is just as good as a complete piano.

No it’s actually like pressing one key on a piano repeatedly and occasionally pressing more keys versus just pressing the same few keys every 20 seconds. Neither one is impressive.

[atari]

I don’t give a ■■■■ if 5-overheat Split Arrow does 100,000% damage.

Yeah, because it will oneshot flocks of weak monsters slower. Unique lv145(170) dungeon gameplay. Who needs stronger skills if you cannot farm those dungeons with them.

All you can do is strawman.

you don’t have a real argument against the concept of 0 CD skills. All you have are strawmans.

Said the king of arguments.

you dunce

You’re just pulling things out of your ass now.

I guess English isn’t your first language

you spastic child.

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Why the ■■■■ would anyone play a Fletcher now when there’s another class that just does the same thing better?

You have a good imagination. This is not a true AoE limited to 2,5 targets. You can shoot mobs with SA after gathering 3 of them while you need to pack them better for Crossfire. Still different playstyles.

[soldatazur]

Since you still haven’t actually presented any argument

Because no one need argument(s) against no argument. Logic.

[SlyGoat]

I’ve already laid out my arguments. Just because you refuse to acknowledge or rebut them doesn’t mean they haven’t been presented. Once again you demonstrated total intellectual cowardice. Keep flagging, kids.

[soldatazur]

Yes, you presented arguments as said above :

you dunce
You’re just pulling things out of your ass now.
I guess English isn’t your first language
you spastic child.

And now the best one :

you demonstrated total intellectual cowardice.

Would you acknowledge to someone telling you that kind of things ? If not all you said is against you.

PS : If you think

No it’s actually like pressing one key on a piano repeatedly and occasionally pressing more keys versus just pressing the same few keys every 20 seconds. Neither one is impressive.

is an argument, you should check the definition of this word. Because all you did in this thread is

pulling things out of your ass

[Miyamu]

Sure, just nerf the only good skill that Scout 3 has. Who cares about damage if you have to play around this stupid overheat mechanic, where you HAVE TO use all charges to put it on cooldown? It’s not like it works like in Dragon Nest, where every charge has separate cd. What a nice way to make Scout mains leave the game.

[Delcas]

If I’m not mistaken Perspective Distortion’s attribute is generally improved in value due to the new damage formula and might contribute a fair bit for physical damage dominant parties so long as it isn’t bugged. Have you considered interaction between Perspective Distortion in the new formula for Doppels, Fencers and Shinobi’s just as an example.

Presuming the ^0.9 is correct and not the ^0.8.

The 25% Physical attack gain from the attribute winds up giving 40-30% more damage based on allies physical attack before armor ignoring buffs/debuffs.
Thematically the scout should be a little closer to serving a support role.

[soldatazur]

OH need a rework, it’s not only for Split Arrow it’s for every skill using this feature. Anyway, this is not a nerf , there are not only nerf/up in online games.

[Miyamu]

I don’t know, for me it feels like a nerf. What I love about Scout, Bokor, Fencer and Fletcher is that they don’t have that much downtime. Also I don’t really like overheat skills, I’d even prefer having 2s cooldown on those ‘new’ ones. We could use them same amount of times in said 10s, but we could space them out how we want instead of spamming the skill to put in on cooldown.

[c2gaming.seetoo]

The whole OH system is flawed anyway. Why would anyone spend 2x cd time waiting for only 1 charge when you could simply blow all charges and wait for half that time for all charges to come back?

On the topic of DEX though, seems pretty good for AA classes. A2-Qs3’s are doing well. So are chaplains. Then there was this vid of an Sr3 using [limacon] to clear 170.